I'm sorry, but when was the last time you was on a London bus? The upper deck on a London bus has rarely any white people on it, unless it's a night bus. And then it's still a mix of races.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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I'm sorry, but when was the last time you was on a London bus? The upper deck on a London bus has rarely any white people on it, unless it's a night bus. And then it's still a mix of races.

So your conclusion is that this story isn't true and just published by CNN to spread lies?

I found the author's Twitter page. Why don't you ask her yourself and also give her your opinion of her piece?

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For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

So this woman is going on about division and post this and the writes an article about people saying immigrants should go home.
Looks like double double standards to me.

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So one person on a bus allegedly makes a racist comment so that applies to the rest of us. I don't call all Remainers idiots and they would be right to call me out if I did.

I'm surprised she didn't use the line "My 8yo child asked me mummy why are leavers so racist and horrid"

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I don't have twitter, nor do I want it. But you seem to think that it is conclusive evidence of truth? CNN reported it. It must be true. I read it in the Sun*, it must be true. It was on twitter, it must be true. Jeez! As I pointed out earlier, your researching is flawed.

*thrown in to make you understand it's all BS

Her opinion piece is about the division in our society. It isn't about her personal experience on a bus. That's just background. It's neither true or untrue. It's an opinion and a reasoning on why people with her opinion believe that continuing to fight is important. CNN didn't "report" it. They published it.

I gave you her Twitter connection so you could ask her questions directly.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I’m all for a points system, but this is going to get amended within 6 months once low skilled worker reliant businesses start folding.

The end game is laudable but it needs to be a phased process

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Except it is merely a rehashing of hundreds of other such pieces. And before Brexit it was a Tory Government or the 2008 crash or any and everything else.

Should this lady be able to get on a bus with her kid and not expect to be verbally abused? Absolutely. Civility above all else.

But the notion that this opinion piece adds anything 'valuable' to the subject is ludicrous. It is a sound bite backed up with no actual hard evidence.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Agreed but how else do you make business's invest in technology and training we are way behind other countries productivity as Labour like to point out. They have known this is coming for a while now and it will still be another year before it comes into affect so plenty of time to get their house in order.

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So you agree or you don't agree that a phased process is better?

I have no idea where all these British workers are going to appear from. Happy to be proved wrong, but can't see it creating anything other than serious financial harm to a lot of businesses.

There is also the very real prospect of product price increases as a result of either lack of available workforce, or more expensive workforce. Fine for me, I can afford it.

That said, what I suspect will happen is less UK goods and more imports as a result when companies realise they either can't balance the books, or make their business economically viable with a significantly more expensive British workforce. Irony. Gotta love it

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

You go ahead with the new restrictions but yes in some cases if the evidence is there it maybe that short term we need to loosen them for certain sectors.

However if you start that way certain business' will never adapt so I would not change anything for probably a year after the new regulations unless compelling data showed it was damaging the economy.

The people complaining the most are the companies that use cheap labour for coffee and takeaways etc. They need to prove that they have exhausted other options like putting up their salaries and training local people before I would be happy letting them off the hook.

It needs to be a flexible policy so maybe you are correct that it should be phased in but we need to see the evidence first that it is not working rather than the "Mega Expensive Coffee" company who doesn't pay UK tax complaining that it can't get enough slave labour.

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