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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Have to agree with you on Cameron front. Do posters think that what we are arguably seeing is a rise against The Establishment with classic misjudgment of public feeling by main parties? Have to say that I now think that Corbyn is in serious trouble as well given lackadaisical approach to REMAIN campaign. Where next for Farage given that he has pretty much achieved his goal? A few more months of working as an MEP then a possible book deal when/IF we actually achieve what the public voted for. In between that and after he could walk into any sq mile or country bar and never pay for a single drink or Rib Eye steak ever again. He won't be short of offers. Made a few grand on his bet as well.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This is my personal message to Hoof and people like you. You have f*cked me. My pension will never recover Your have f*cked my children, the economy will never recover. Dublin will be happy tonight and watch what Edinburgh does. You killed the only goose we had laying decent sized eggs. You did this for your own gain knowing it would adversely affect a huge proportion of people, especially Londoners like the HOLers. And then you boasted about your gains. You used the disenfranchised to get your own way, even though it won't benefit them and will in the end adversely affect them. The infirm will be in particular jeopardy, funding for the NHS will fall quickly. It's a good job you made money on the exit so you can buy your private health care. Everything will grind to a halt for years to come, you can forget big infrastructure investments. This was not a risk it was fair for you to take on behalf of others For all of these reasons I despise you. Maybe, when you look back on what you did, you will come to despise yourself too. Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.10pm) Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.21pm) Oh please. Exaggeration to the extreme. The economy will never recover? What is it with people like you? Try to see the long term, not this week, this month or even this year.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This is my personal message to Hoof and people like you. You have f*cked me. My pension will never recover Your have f*cked my children, the economy will never recover. Dublin will be happy tonight and watch what Edinburgh does. You killed the only goose we had laying decent sized eggs. You did this for your own gain knowing it would adversely affect a huge proportion of people, especially Londoners like the HOLers. And then you boasted about your gains. You used the disenfranchised to get your own way, even though it won't benefit them and will in the end adversely affect them. The infirm will be in particular jeopardy, funding for the NHS will fall quickly. It's a good job you made money on the exit so you can buy your private health care. Everything will grind to a halt for years to come, you can forget big infrastructure investments. This was not a risk it was fair for you to take on behalf of others For all of these reasons I despise you. Maybe, when you look back on what you did, you will come to despise yourself too. Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.10pm) Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 5.21pm) What a sore loser. If you weren't thinking about yourself and your pension and instead thought it through properly, you'd see its far better in the long run for our children and grandchildren.
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France will Frexit
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
France will Frexit And Sweden will Sexit.
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Originally posted by Willo
And Sweden will Sexit. And Jim'll Fexit.
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Originally posted by on me shed son
Isn't that kind of natural though? Sometimes it's hard to resist saying "I told you so". That's fair enough but he said he found it funny that a young couple had lost money.
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
France will Frexit And then every one will start arguing leading to conflict. I know this cause Dave told us.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You are on a wind up right? You are bitter because you lost. I am delighted for my kids that we are out and I suggest you stop whining about it and move on. Sorry, do you know anything about economics? I don't see how taking a massive gamble on your children's future fills you with 'delight'!? Even IF there are any positives to this outcome, there will be a huge amount of pain before we reach anything good. This is something that people of MY age bracket will have to deal with, whilst you waste in your care home being paid for by ME.
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
Oh please. Exaggeration to the extreme. The economy will never recover? What is it with people like you? Try to see the long term, not this week, this month or even this year. The long term is a more GLOBAL world with GLOBAL economies. How can you expect to achieve that when cutting yourself off with the majority of the trade deals we had. Britons seem to be far too arrogant and undervalue other countries. Clearly Britain will not recover because we will lose the inward investment and scale that supports our trading negotiations. My specific interest is in farming. Increasingly only massive farmers survive as they have the trading strength and economies of scale to counter the massive power of the large supermarkets. This is how I look at the EU, we need to be part of a bigger trading bloc to give us strength against countries like the US and China.
Edited by Mapletree (24 Jun 2016 7.41pm)
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Sorry, do you know anything about economics? I don't see how taking a massive gamble on your children's future fills you with 'delight'!? Even IF there are any positives to this outcome, there will be a huge amount of pain before we reach anything good. This is something that people of MY age bracket will have to deal with, whilst you waste in your care home being paid for by ME. The future goes on for many generations, not just the next few years. Huge? You sure about that? Aren't you exaggerating again like Father to suit your stance? Consider this, just roughly. Sterling falls 10% and negates any trade tariffs, and that's whilst the EU still continues till the next default. Spain, Italy next? We'll be out and the 1st to benfit. Sterling falls 10% and prices of goods increase, inflation rises to 3-4% but wages rise because of kerbs on immigration. MP's are now saying they should have listened to people around the country. Bit late for that. Instead of blaming maturer people, why not blame the apathetic yoof who don't/didn't vote? I've voted in every General Election since I qualified. Youngsters now prefer to vote for Big Bruv. Sense of entitlement without any responsibility. And when the youngsters of today are able to buy a house, not a box flat, when they want, where they want, and in an area still inhabited by their friends and family and close to work, none of us expect any thanks, but that's why a lot of us voted leave. The sense of entitlement again. Not that this applies to you but I'll raise it anyway. People of all colours voted leave. Just watch the tv.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
The long term is a more GLOBAL world with GLOBAL economies. How can you expect to achieve that when cutting yourself off with the majority of the trade deals we had. Britons seem to be far too arrogant and undervalue other countries. Clearly Britain will not recover because we will lose the inward investment and scale that supports our trading negotiations.
Aren't large farmer the ones favoured and subsidised by the EU anyway? Others had to diversify and produce fancy cheese, yogurt or ice cream. Edited by Rudi Hedman (24 Jun 2016 7.40pm)
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Sorry, do you know anything about economics? I don't see how taking a massive gamble on your children's future fills you with 'delight'!? Even IF there are any positives to this outcome, there will be a huge amount of pain before we reach anything good. This is something that people of MY age bracket will have to deal with, whilst you waste in your care home being paid for by ME. Do you know anything? You carry on fretting Maple. And I will enjoy my 25 or 30 odd years that I might have left knowing that I paid for privilege and hoping that I never have to spend any of that time any where near someone like you.
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Originally posted by beagle
He was conspicuous by his absence in the debate and seemed happy to let the blue on blue Tory feuding take the headlines. To my mind he is a guilty as Cameron in playing politics with this referendum and did fcuk-all except give the odd limp sound bite. Don't you think it was the media to blame for that?
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Sorry, do you know anything about economics? I don't see how taking a massive gamble on your children's future fills you with 'delight'!? Even IF there are any positives to this outcome, there will be a huge amount of pain before we reach anything good. This is something that people of MY age bracket will have to deal with, whilst you waste in your care home being paid for by ME. Do you? Do you know how much money leaves the country when East Europeans either wire it back home or return home to buy their bigger house or start a business and improve their and their country's situation far quicker? No? No, because it isn't reported. Couldn't we train and hire our own youngsters to the construction industry? It pays a decent wage if people aren't undercutting each other. I'm talking about building sites btw. You can always book a local builder for your home. Ever heard of the multiplier effect? It's the theory used but never mentioned when a steel works goes out of business. All money that was in circulation and creating more money via the sandwich shop, pub, local shop of any kind, any business, that multiplier effect goes out of the window and everyone suffers. Whilst in the EU, could we do anything about failing but necessary businesses in the UK? No, against EU laws. Let them go to the wall instead. What about them? Could we renationalise the railways? No, despite what Hilary Benn believes before pursing his lips on live tv.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The future goes on for many generations, not just the next few years. Huge? You sure about that? Aren't you exaggerating again like Father to suit your stance? Consider this, just roughly. Sterling falls 10% and negates any trade tariffs, and that's whilst the EU still continues till the next default. Spain, Italy next? We'll be out and the 1st to benfit. Sterling falls 10% and prices of goods increase, inflation rises to 3-4% but wages rise because of kerbs on immigration. MP's are now saying they should have listened to people around the country. Bit late for that. Instead of blaming maturer people, why not blame the apathetic yoof who don't/didn't vote? I've voted in every General Election since I qualified. Youngsters now prefer to vote for Big Bruv. Sense of entitlement without any responsibility. And when the youngsters of today are able to buy a house, not a box flat, when they want, where they want, and in an area still inhabited by their friends and family and close to work, none of us expect any thanks, but that's why a lot of us voted leave. The sense of entitlement again. Not that this applies to you but I'll raise it anyway. People of all colours voted leave. Just watch the tv.
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Originally posted by Willo
And Sweden will Sexit. But not standing up! Ollie's Dad,Ash.
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Hence the reason us "oldies" had our say... I know that now my children, my grandchildren and my great grandchildren I have now and future family members, will have a better chance of the life I want for them. NOT for a life that would have been changed year on year and ruined by the EU which as we all know is run by the French and the Germans. Just wait and see which other member states will now have referendums to come out as we have done.....The EU is on a downward spiral and will be finished in a few years while we will be strong as we always have been when on our own.
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Originally posted by tome
Don't you think it was the media to blame for that? Its no ones fault. It just the will of the people. Right or wrong, that's democracy. Its not really about right and left, but how the public view EU membership. I expect Corbyn may have trouble in the coming weeks especially from Labour MPs who were for an exit.
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