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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
Look - I admit I was one of those Roy "be careful what you wish" for supporters..!! But after today enough is enough - IMO all good things come to an end and I now think we have reached that point. After the Man U game, I must admit I thought - yeah OK things are progressing..!! But then after Chelsea where we didn't even give it a go and then again today which was arguably even worse..!! As I said enough is enough and Roy's "Dire Ball" tactics just ain't good enough and/or acceptable - time to go..!! We have the talent in the squad but Roy's tactics just don't allow them to express their talent. We were screaming out today for someone to link attack and defence, but Eze was left on the bench. The one time we did do Jario put Batsman through and he buried it - but just offside. But that was only once in the whole game. Just not good enough and that ain't the players it's management and tactics. I saw SP sitting in the stands, he must have been thinking "what the hell" - I know I would was..!! Time has come - thanks Roy but it's time to bring in someone that can move us on take us away from "Dire Ball" and allow the squad to show/fulfil it's undoubted talent..!! One other point showed today that time to give Mitchell a rest and that Ward's time is also run - bring on both PVA and Clyne..!! At least we didn't lose, but in fairness if I were a Brighton fan I'd be spitting feathers..!! Come on SP time to act - Dyche or Howe for me..!! COYP Had to pop on for the first time in a few years to check current opinion. This nails it for me. Roy will keep us up every year, which is admittedly better than the previous managers who could only do it once. However in our 8th season we surely need to be pushing on. At least have a go. So anyone dynamic please, we have decent enough players. I also can't understand why Luka, who is surely our most important player, isn't playing, but I imagine you've covered that elsewhere!
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Exactly class footballer who can actually pass the ball. Roy to get us safe by NY in comes Howe, you heard it here first! Could well be.
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Originally posted by doombear
..from being placed about sixth in the table tonight, very easy to push aside and forget.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
So on that basis you believe we are playing to the height of our talents. Doesn’t bode well does it? why do you always claim to know what another poster is actually meaning. brighton have spent 109 million and couldn't beat a team playing as badly as we did today. brighton are not a very good team considering the cash they have spent. i am not beating myself up as i've seen worse displays watching palace over the years. people need to chill out a bit.
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Originally posted by PZ Eagle
why do you always claim to know what another poster is actually meaning. brighton have spent 109 million and couldn't beat a team playing as badly as we did today. brighton are not a very good team considering the cash they have spent. i am not beating myself up as i've seen worse displays watching palace over the years. people need to chill out a bit. So have I, but not with a team as talented as this one. I think people forget this is the costliest assembled group of players we have ever put onto a football pitch. You wouldn’t believe it after some of our displays and as for today’s match, we were very lucky to get a draw.
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Originally posted by Knightstar
I agree it was a poor performance but it was still nearly 3 points. Like it or not Roy does get results, even if we end up being a counter-attacking side with low possession. He will keep us in the Premier League and for me that's what matters. What needs to happen for us to progress is new ownership with real money, so we can invest in the club on all fronts. That's the priority for me and then we can seriously aspire to better things. Until then I think Roy remains a good choice. nearly 3 points from a dubious penalty... at home(if that even counts anymore), against our rivals - c'mon no one should accept that, especially when we have 3 20 mil players on the bench...
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If we continue this ultra passive approach we will definitely go down
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'please go hodgson' by becky Bring back Big Sam. The football was much better and he got the best out of Benteke
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'please go hodgson' by becky How many Roy OUT threads do we need????
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Originally posted by cryrst
Potter gets a tune out of the weed with a squad of a similar quality it pains me to say. You could match the players in ability across both teams. yet they almost went down & we were safe before lockdown. be careful what you wish for.
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Originally posted by Knightstar
Everyone is blaming Roy's tactics but the players must also except their share of responsibility. Sky From what former players have said, Roy's training is based on formation, formation, formation. No individual skill, no set players. Our team rarely loses it's shape. We are difficult to break down and will catch teams on the break here and there. He also, repeatedly set up with three defensive midfielders that were poor passes last season which constantly put us under pressure. This year he's switched to two, which will make the situation worse. Thankfully Reidewald has finally been given a chance but I still think we need a midfield 3. It's the same old mistakes from Roy time and time again, there's no sign of us building towards anything, there's no indication that Roy has anything in the locker to turn this around. When Dunk was sent off yesterday, he did at least look fired up for the game, which is more than I can say of our team. I'd hope Parish is looking around to see who he can bring in.
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
It is a mad statistic that in (I think) the last 24 games in which we've taken the lead we haven't lost, winning 19 of them. Based on that and a solid points total for 5 games, in which being honest 7 points is probably more than many of us might have expected given the teams we were playing, you should read that paragraph and think 'Wow, what a good job Roy is doing'. But for me it is covering up a worrying trend. I said throughout last season that if the points dry up people will quickly turn on Roy due to his negative approach, but now I think most of us are getting to the point where even points aren't enough. In the past people would've said that had we won people wouldn't be complaining, but I think even if we had won many of us still would be complaining this time. We are living through bleak times and many of us have a multitude of worries. The Palace games should be the one highlight of the week but they are actually making me feel worse these days. I know there are bigger things in the world - my wife has been told her cancer has spread and will have to start more chemo next week - but Roy has to understand right now we need something to believe in beyond just grinding out points like a homeless guy w@nking off a monkey to pay for a sandwich. The hard part is, sacking Roy would be like sticking your grandad in a nursing home (in fact that analogy is probably quite literal in this case). I'm going to hope Steve has a word in Roy's ear to let him know that fans have been calling Dignitas to ask if they take football teams. Who knows, maybe we'll turn Fulham over and Zaha will smile when he scores. Or maybe I'll go back to paying a homeless man to w@nk off a monkey. I have remained firmly on the fence with regards to Roy, I would never vehemently defend nor persecute him as I always viewed both arguments as actually quite valid and had yet to take a side. I have been reluctant to comment so far but reading your post, particularly the bold, I have to admit the pendulum is starting to swing for me and I almost have a feeling of being robbed of watching Palace play the majority of weekends the last few seasons with this being yet another, irrespective of the result. I actually feel less worried about us then I feel perplexed by our performances these days with patience now beginning to strain. Wishing the best for your wife.
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Originally posted by jeeagles
From what former players have said, Roy's training is based on formation, formation, formation. No individual skill, no set players. Our team rarely loses it's shape. We are difficult to break down and will catch teams on the break here and there. He also, repeatedly set up with three defensive midfielders that were poor passes last season which constantly put us under pressure. This year he's switched to two, which will make the situation worse. Thankfully Reidewald has finally been given a chance but I still think we need a midfield 3. It's the same old mistakes from Roy time and time again, there's no sign of us building towards anything, there's no indication that Roy has anything in the locker to turn this around. When Dunk was sent off yesterday, he did at least look fired up for the game, which is more than I can say of our team. I'd hope Parish is looking around to see who he can bring in.
But it’s all about opinions. Edited by Helmet46 (19 Oct 2020 9.55am)
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
It is a mad statistic that in (I think) the last 24 games in which we've taken the lead we haven't lost, winning 19 of them. Based on that and a solid points total for 5 games, in which being honest 7 points is probably more than many of us might have expected given the teams we were playing, you should read that paragraph and think 'Wow, what a good job Roy is doing'. But for me it is covering up a worrying trend. I said throughout last season that if the points dry up people will quickly turn on Roy due to his negative approach, but now I think most of us are getting to the point where even points aren't enough. In the past people would've said that had we won people wouldn't be complaining, but I think even if we had won many of us still would be complaining this time. We are living through bleak times and many of us have a multitude of worries. The Palace games should be the one highlight of the week but they are actually making me feel worse these days. I know there are bigger things in the world - my wife has been told her cancer has spread and will have to start more chemo next week - but Roy has to understand right now we need something to believe in beyond just grinding out points like a homeless guy w@nking off a monkey to pay for a sandwich. The hard part is, sacking Roy would be like sticking your grandad in a nursing home (in fact that analogy is probably quite literal in this case). I'm going to hope Steve has a word in Roy's ear to let him know that fans have been calling Dignitas to ask if they take football teams. Who knows, maybe we'll turn Fulham over and Zaha will smile when he scores. Or maybe I'll go back to paying a homeless man to w@nk off a monkey. Good post TL. A decent balance of both sides of the equation. I feel pretty much the same however my patience ran out about a year ago. I hope your wife's treatment goes well, there are always more important things than football.
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