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Palace in the Blood Flag 14 Jan 20 11.30am

Originally posted by VinceHilaire

Totally agree.. and this could be a little controversial.... But I would like to see him play in Luka's position. Jairo reads the game well, can pass, tackle, strong on the ball and does not just pointless dive in on players giving away fouls.

I think you have hit nail on the head this is where he will end up. A Luka who can pass to his own man! However while Luka is club catain he will not play there often

 

thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 02 Feb 20 5.48am

How could the manager leave POTM and probably our best passer of the ball, on the bench for the whole 0-1 game vs the Blades?
Beat me...

 

KAOS Flag In a tree 02 Feb 20 8.22am

And me! Utterly baffling. What’s that gonna do for his confidence ... what more can he do to command a starting place eh!

I think it’s disgusting tbh ...


Originally posted by thai-eagle

How could the manager leave POTM and probably our best passer of the ball, on the bench for the whole 0-1 game vs the Blades?
Beat me...

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 20 9.39am

Originally posted by KAOS

And me! Utterly baffling. What’s that gonna do for his confidence ... what more can he do to command a starting place eh!

I think it’s disgusting tbh ...


Sadly, it was what I expected because Roy had said how PvA was one the best LBs in the Prem, so it was no surprise that he came back in. For some reason Roy won't play Jairo in midfield where his keen eye for a colleague's run and precise passing ability would be a godsend.
it wouldn't surprise if the season end comes and Jairo spends most of the remainder warming the bench that the lad will be off to another Prem team who have seen how good a player he can be.
I have to say I wouldn't blame if he did go.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 20 11.47am

Another poster on I think it was the "Moaning thread" suggested playing Jairo as a Jan Molby type CM. What do people think? (Thinking of ways of getting him into the team whilst retaining PvA).

 

Glazier#1 Flag 02 Feb 20 12.08pm


I've thought, for some time, that he might be tried in a no 10 role, making things happen around the box. He's a great passer and has good strength, too.

 

EddieMac Flag 02 Feb 20 12.54pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1


I've thought, for some time, that he might be tried in a no 10 role, making things happen around the box. He's a great passer and has good strength, too.

Yeah great shout. Give him a go in goal while your at it.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 20 2.24pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Yeah great shout. Give him a go in goal while your at it.

and what are you saying or contributing constructively?

 

Glazier#1 Flag 02 Feb 20 8.28pm

I take it this means that you think the suggestion is totally ridiculous. Why? I'd be interested in your reasons for such a comment.

Originally posted by EddieMac

Yeah great shout. Give him a go in goal while your at it.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Feb 20 10.13pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

I take it this means that you think the suggestion is totally ridiculous. Why? I'd be interested in your reasons for such a comment.

Me too. I'm open to being persuaded by a strong argument.

 

EddieMac Flag 02 Feb 20 10.37pm

Originally posted by doombear

Me too. I'm open to being persuaded by a strong argument.

There are people on here crying the last day or so that Riedewald was dropped for PVA. He is not a left back and never will be so why shouldn’t he be dropped for PVA. He got the fans player of the month so people expect him to be a regular starter and have the audacity to say that he could play as a number 10.

I agree that he should have been given a lot more chances in Luka’s position and has not been treated fairly but he is no full back and he is certainly not a number 10.

People on here banging on about his passing being great. Do you lot watch the games or do you sit there with your blinkers on blind to his faults ? Yes, he tries to pass the ball but it very rarely ends up with our own player. He did a decent job when thrown into the position but he was never going to keep it.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Feb 2020 10.44pm)

 

thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 02 Feb 20 11.34pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

There are people on here crying the last day or so that Riedewald was dropped for PVA. He is not a left back and never will be so why shouldn’t he be dropped for PVA. He got the fans player of the month so people expect him to be a regular starter and have the audacity to say that he could play as a number 10.

I agree that he should have been given a lot more chances in Luka’s position and has not been treated fairly but he is no full back and he is certainly not a number 10.

People on here banging on about his passing being great. Do you lot watch the games or do you sit there with your blinkers on blind to his faults ? Yes, he tries to pass the ball but it very rarely ends up with our own player. He did a decent job when thrown into the position but he was never going to keep it.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Feb 2020 10.44pm)

Totally disagree! And with (probably) the least creative midfield in PL (MacArthur, McCarty and Luka), there ought to be room for Jairo R. in the team. As left back he usually try to pass forward while PVA (had a good game vs the Blades) more often send the ball backwards.
Just feel it was wrong signal pulling the Dutch player out of the team after his January success.

 

HeathMan Flag Purley 02 Feb 20 11.52pm

Would love to see a "weaker" team start a match - instructed to go for it, with a bench full of quality. Would suggest four and five, with the first substitution at 55 minutes. The four would be those who have trained with the first team squad, and with only three substitutions one could impress for the whole 90 minutes. Five recognised first team players on the bench would give Roy many opportunities - think of Luca having a shorter time for bad passes, CB coming on with only his concentration span remaining, WZ with no need to conserve his strength, Jimmy Mac only having to give 35 minutes, COYP .

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 03 Feb 20 9.16am

Let’s see Wilf left wing, Andros right wing, Meyer inside right, Riedewald inside left and Ayew centre forward. Are my tactics out of date?

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Feb 20 9.25am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Let’s see Wilf left wing, Andros right wing, Meyer inside right, Riedewald inside left and Ayew centre forward. Are my tactics out of date?

Who would you have as left half?

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 03 Feb 20 9.33am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Who would you have as left half?

That’s a tough call, probably Jimmy Mc, Kouyate on right. PVA, Tomkins and Ward make up the rest of the outfield. Sod it, let’s just play old school attacking football. If nothing else, if we lined up like this the opposition wouldn’t have a clue what to do.

 

Uphill Flag Bedford 03 Feb 20 9.38am

Originally posted by EddieMac

There are people on here crying the last day or so that Riedewald was dropped for PVA. He is not a left back and never will be so why shouldn’t he be dropped for PVA. He got the fans player of the month so people expect him to be a regular starter and have the audacity to say that he could play as a number 10.

I agree that he should have been given a lot more chances in Luka’s position and has not been treated fairly but he is no full back and he is certainly not a number 10.

People on here banging on about his passing being great. Do you lot watch the games or do you sit there with your blinkers on blind to his faults ? Yes, he tries to pass the ball but it very rarely ends up with our own player. He did a decent job when thrown into the position but he was never going to keep it.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Feb 2020 10.44pm)

.. and in what respect is he worse than any other in the current Palace team ? We don't score goals for 2 reasons: 1. Zaha does not win penalties any more and 2. we can't CONSTRUCTIVELY pass the ball ..

 

palace chick Flag South Croydon 03 Feb 20 11.44am

PVA is by far a better left back than Riedewald and it was correct to replace him on Saturday. I hadn’t been as impressed as others in Riedewalds left back displays but did think he was doing short passes When going forward better than PVA. Think his displays should have gotten him in the starting line up and perhaps in place of McCarthy who I haven’t yet seen play that well other than the Man City away. With that said we all know Hodgson has a favoured defensive midfield and I don’t believe he would have or will change that whilst manager of us? Riedewald is not a left back and perhaps it will take injuries in midfield or a new manager to find out if he is good enough? The result Saturday had nothing to do with him not playing, we would have lost whoever was at left back. Missed chances and referee and goalkeeper howlers were the reason we got beaten :-(

 

Aray Flag South London 03 Feb 20 1.13pm

Absolutely makes sense for PvA to return to LB. No one sane and who actually watches the game thinks otherwise. But what have the players in midfield (apart from Luka) done to deserve their spots?

Neither of the Jimmy Macs are playing that well right now. Kouyate is a better box-to-box midfielder than either of them too.

We need someone who can pick class pass in midfield - or even a quick pass. We play out very slowly.

So I'm not sure, Palace Chick, you can say the result had nothing to do with him not playing because we may have created more chances given all that possession, with him on the pitch.

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 03 Feb 20 2.48pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

There are people on here crying the last day or so that Riedewald was dropped for PVA. He is not a left back and never will be so why shouldn’t he be dropped for PVA. He got the fans player of the month so people expect him to be a regular starter and have the audacity to say that he could play as a number 10.

I agree that he should have been given a lot more chances in Luka’s position and has not been treated fairly but he is no full back and he is certainly not a number 10.

People on here banging on about his passing being great. Do you lot watch the games or do you sit there with your blinkers on blind to his faults ? Yes, he tries to pass the ball but it very rarely ends up with our own player. He did a decent job when thrown into the position but he was never going to keep it.

Edited by EddieMac (02 Feb 2020 10.44pm)

So why did Jairo get POTM award from a lot of Palace fans? (I didn't vote at all so no axe to grind on that one, although he was probably the most consistent player during the month)
A lot of people have commented favourably on this site about Jairo's passing in the games he played. Perhaps, therefore, it is you who has been wearing blinkers.
You give the impression of being a great PvA fan so perhaps that is a factor in your assessment.
I, too wanted to see PvA back in the team and expected Roy to put him back. He's one of our better players.
The purpose of my earlier entry re Jairo was simply to ask how he might get a place in the team as I think he deserves a longer run given the way he stepped into an unfamiliar LB position and handled better than many of us would have expected

 

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