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lefty27 Flag ipswich 30 Jun 21 7.01am

Originally posted by Brinscalleagle2

It may be that Vieria is signed as Favre’s assistant and we get both ?

Or it could be that Favre agreed terms and turned us down at the 12th hour looking like a bunch of muppets. Just let it go he isn’t coming! Comical the straw clutching going on.

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Jun 21 7.25am

Apparently he’s already rang Dazza with his transfer plans, can’t wait for the updates!

Edited by Nicholas91 (30 Jun 2021 7.26am)

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Helmet46 Flag Croydon 30 Jun 21 7.33am

Originally posted by lefty27

Or it could be that Favre agreed terms and turned us down at the 12th hour looking like a bunch of muppets. Just let it go he isn’t coming! Comical the straw clutching going on.

To be fair, I don’t think we look like a bunch of muppets because someone changed their mind, having verbally accepted the position. That’s just unfortunate. It could be argued that the bloke is actually a bit of a dickhead and shouldn’t have verbally agreed if he hadn’t researched it all thoroughly and had doubts.

I do, however, agree that he has turned us down and we need to get over it and move on.

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 30 Jun 21 8.11am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

A response fully up to the standard expected of you.

Glad not to disappoint

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Jun 21 8.35am

Originally posted by Helmet46

To be fair, I don’t think we look like a bunch of muppets because someone changed their mind, having verbally accepted the position. That’s just unfortunate. It could be argued that the bloke is actually a bit of a dickhead and shouldn’t have verbally agreed if he hadn’t researched it all thoroughly and had doubts.

But is that the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth or is it smoke and mirrors

 

The Dolphin Flag 30 Jun 21 8.40am

If it is to be Viera then it feels more like a desperation appointment than one based on sound judgement.
Is he the right man to rebuild as well as manage?
Time will tell of course but I am more than worried!

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 30 Jun 21 9.20am

Originally posted by lefty27

Or it could be that Favre agreed terms and turned us down at the 12th hour looking like a bunch of muppets. Just let it go he isn’t coming! Comical the straw clutching going on.


When the media refer to the fact terms have been agreed, it is not anywhere near a done deal. Managers have agents to sort out terms,
Terms agreed with an agent can hit the deck when put to the actual manager .
IMHO, this is what actually happened with Favre, The agent finds out what’s on offer financially, which might be acceptable, but the manager then looks at the deal in its entirety , It’s then not just a matter of money, or even transfer kitties. But personal preferences on all sorts of issues. Reopening talks with Favre, is plausible, if they can cover his real concerns.
I doubt Viera, is in an any different position right now. He might be, might not.

 

MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 30 Jun 21 9.22am

Still not signed ..

He’s back in France, does that mean he wouldn’t be taking training Monday now anyway with needing to quarantine?

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 30 Jun 21 9.30am

Originally posted by Putitout


When the media refer to the fact terms have been agreed, it is not anywhere near a done deal. Managers have agents to sort out terms,
Terms agreed with an agent can hit the deck when put to the actual manager .
IMHO, this is what actually happened with Favre, The agent finds out what’s on offer financially, which might be acceptable, but the manager then looks at the deal in its entirety , It’s then not just a matter of money, or even transfer kitties. But personal preferences on all sorts of issues. Reopening talks with Favre, is plausible, if they can cover his real concerns.
I doubt Viera, is in an any different position right now. He might be, might not.


Ah a sensible post about this whole sorry mess.

 

MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 30 Jun 21 9.34am

I think most people understand that agreeing contracts and the associated clauses are a little more complex than having a chat and then steve asking them to 'sign here'.

 

taylors lovechild Flag 30 Jun 21 9.37am

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Still not signed ..

He’s back in France, does that mean he wouldn’t be taking training Monday now anyway with needing to quarantine?

[Link]

Whatever the case, that clip shows it is close. Arsene as assistant?

 

DANGERCLOSE Flag London 30 Jun 21 9.51am

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If it is PV let's all get behind him and give a chance

 

Helmet46 Flag Croydon 30 Jun 21 10.25am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

But is that the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth or is it smoke and mirrors

LOL god knows!

 

Pigglelet Flag Deepest Darkest Sussex 30 Jun 21 10.36am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Another thing to consider is time. FdB got 4 games as we lost all 4. Let’s assume Chelsea beat us on day one then the new man (or woman of course!!) will have a three gam window to get a point. Hmmmmmm.

I would also just like to point out that, if Palace were to repeat last season’s results in the fixtures for the new season (Brenford excluded of course), our first win wouldn’t arrive until match number 13.

I would like to wish the new manager, whoever he is, the very best of luck.

 


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Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 30 Jun 21 10.44am

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Yes, it feels underwhelming. I suspect that's not so much due to Vieira's pedigree as it is because he is so clearly nowhere near our first choice. In truth, he was probably not even on our top 10 list when the season ended. Yet here he is.

With that said, he's done all the right things to prepare himself for our job and really, Cooper or Ismael would have been no more or less of a risk, personal preferences notwithstanding.

In the end, he's got the job and he's qualified to do it. Time will tell whether he succeeds or not. What I would say is that for the first time in a fair while, we have a "figurehead" permanent manager, someone recognised and highly thought of in the game. That doesn't mean he won't fail, but it is a chance for us to forge a new identity.

All-in-all, I'm cautiously optimistic. Vieira strikes me as a much-needed change of pace at Palace and if he's a bit of a dice roll, what were the alternatives at this point? I'm keeping an open mind, will back him and the team, and we'll see where we are in October. Yes, I'm choosing to see the glass as half full rather than half empty but what the alternative to that?

that's the spirit and about where I am. Time to back him and support him if he's announced.

Nothing can compare to how disgusted I was when we hired Warnock - I really despised that fella. And he turned out alright. So I have high hopes for Viera.

 

taylors lovechild Flag 30 Jun 21 10.58am

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

that's the spirit and about where I am. Time to back him and support him if he's announced.

Nothing can compare to how disgusted I was when we hired Warnock - I really despised that fella. And he turned out alright. So I have high hopes for Viera.

It's kind of the Palace way that when expectations are at their lowest things turn out best and vice versa. Also, if Nuno or Favre had come in and failed they would have cost a lot more to get rid of I would imagine. With Viera the club are in a stronger bargaining position and there may be clauses that allow for early termination, or a low severance if things don't pan out. The contract may also lean more heavily towards bonus payments rather than a large basic. That's all guesswork, but Viera will almost certainly be cheaper if nothing else.

People comparing his signing to FdB are wide of the mark in my view. FdB only knew the Ajax way and seemingly didn't know how to be adaptable. Viera has coached at Man City, worked with a team comprised largely of inferior players in the US, and managed in the French league with a team similar to our level. It is also worth remembering that this is also a risk for him. If he fails with us his PL dream may be over. There is no doubt a desire to manage Arsenal one day and hopefully he does well enough with us to achieve that (if he does sign of course!!)

 

Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 30 Jun 21 11.06am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

It's kind of the Palace way that when expectations are at their lowest things turn out best and vice versa. Also, if Nuno or Favre had come in and failed they would have cost a lot more to get rid of I would imagine. With Viera the club are in a stronger bargaining position and there may be clauses that allow for early termination, or a low severance if things don't pan out. The contract may also lean more heavily towards bonus payments rather than a large basic. That's all guesswork, but Viera will almost certainly be cheaper if nothing else.

People comparing his signing to FdB are wide of the mark in my view. FdB only knew the Ajax way and seemingly didn't know how to be adaptable. Viera has coached at Man City, worked with a team comprised largely of inferior players in the US, and managed in the French league with a team similar to our level. It is also worth remembering that this is also a risk for him. If he fails with us his PL dream may be over. There is no doubt a desire to manage Arsenal one day and hopefully he does well enough with us to achieve that (if he does sign of course!!)

If he achieves his ambition and becomes the Arsenal manager in 2 or 3 years time I’ll be delighted for him. if it happens it’ll mean we’re playing European football!

 

sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Jun 21 11.13am

Originally posted by Palacesince64

If he achieves his ambition and becomes the Arsenal manager in 2 or 3 years time I’ll be delighted for him. if it happens it’ll mean we’re playing European football!

It's worth remembering that there was a time when a successful, young Steve Coppell was nailed on to become the next shoe-in, big club manager if not at Man Utd after Ferguson turned things around, somewhere else. Doesn't always happen the way you expect. Vieira may come, succeed, and decide Palace is his club because it all fits for him, as it did with Coppell. Stranger things have happened.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Jun 21 11.33am

There were positives and negatives with all the supposed candidates for the job.

PV has pedigree in terms of the clubs he has played for and managed at. He’s worked with young players at City. And gained experience of being Head Coach in very different environments.

He has a reputation to make in the Premier League, not to lose.

Let’s get right behind him

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 30 Jun 21 12.26pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

There were positives and negatives with all the supposed candidates for the job.

PV has pedigree in terms of the clubs he has played for and managed at. He’s worked with young players at City. And gained experience of being Head Coach in very different environments.

He has a reputation to make in the Premier League, not to lose.

Let’s get right behind him

Well said Neillo. To all the flakes and moaners here, suck it up, Buttercup. If Vieira is named then he's our manager and at a minimum, his pedigree is sound as Neillo says. Getting excited is a choice. If you support Palace then make the choice to get excited, and get behind the new manager. FFS, some people are never, ever happy.

 


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