2024 General Election
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 eaglesdare  23 May 24 12.29pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I expect a Labour government, no surprise there. The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge. Lib dems who cares. I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated. Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now. Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway. I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills. If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe. The country will further polarise between urban and countryside. Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm) Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm) It's not much better in different parts of the world. Infact it's worse in my opinion. England will always be the best place to live for me anyway regardless of who is in charge. I have lived through one labour government I can certainly live through another. I do think the migration crises will worsen. And the tories will get their act together in the election after this one and be back sooner than we all think.
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| eaglesdare 23 May 24 7.47pm |
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I see the tories have reinstated Hancock........I am lost for words now.
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 EverybodyDannsNow SE19 23 May 24 8.12pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I expect a Labour government, no surprise there. The Conservatives need to retain enough seats to form an opposition that can challenge. Lib dems who cares. I hope the Galloway backed candidates do damage to Labour for taking them for granted for years. I will be delighted if Rayner can be unseated. Otherwise, the country is pretty much fooked now. Whether Labour or Conservatives in charge won't make much difference next term anyway. I suspect many in the 25-45 age group will emigrate if they have the chance, further depleting services and skills. If this sounds hopeless it's because I think it generally is hopeless, slow decline and a quasi return to Europe. Brexit never had a chance to be a success The country will further polarise between urban and countryside. Mass migration of low and non skilled means we are taking net takers from the system who will not generate the tax required to fund themselves Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.01pm) Edited by HKOwen (23 May 2024 12.02pm) Ignoring the fact that this is already happening… given Labour are infinitely more popular amongst 25-45 year olds than the Tories, why would this GE (and Labour government to follow) go any way to increase that trend? Certainly agree with your assessment that the country is f***ed.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 23 May 24 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
NATO/British troops fighting in Ukraine, H5N1, Climate lockdowns & a catastrophic economic collapse. I cant remember where I read/saw it but Sunak doesnt want to be a war time PM so is getting out whilst he can. Edited by Ouzo Dan (23 May 2024 8.02pm) He’ll have sailed off into the California sunset by the end of the year - he couldn’t care less.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 23 May 24 8.18pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Except both are caused by the same virus. Which is the point. A good description of our political and economic reality I read this week: “We continue to diagnose a terminal cancer as a series of seasonal colds.” Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (23 May 2024 8.18pm)
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| Stirlingsays 23 May 24 8.42pm |
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Sunak or Starmer has to be up there with Biden or Trump for depressing choices. It's not democracy in any real sense...the system holds more power than the executive. Look how the civil service beat out department heads during this Tory run.....it's a uniparty form of democracy with minor differences between parties....neo-democracy.
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| steeleye20 Online Croydon 23 May 24 8.45pm |
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'Rishi Sunak has dropped flagship policies on deporting asylum seekers to Rwanda and banning smoking for young people on the first full day of his election campaign, leaving his legacy increasingly threadbare'. His 'workers playtime' audience turned out to be tory councillors. Important to Britain's 11 million renters, the landlord/tenants bill, promised in the 2019 manifesto, is scuppered. So the tory landlords, of which he is one, escape undamaged. Not a fit country.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 24 May 24 12.03am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Ignoring the fact that this is already happening… given Labour are infinitely more popular amongst 25-45 year olds than the Tories, why would this GE (and Labour government to follow) go any way to increase that trend? Certainly agree with your assessment that the country is f***ed. I meant that people in that age group who are mobile in their jobs, medical, dental, financial services , lawyers, engineers, accountants and the like, the higher earners basically. The opportunity not so high for most people as attractive destinations like Australia and Canada have a selective approach. Asia has a lot to offer, Hong Kong is actively recruiting doctors in the UK for example
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 24 May 24 12.05am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sunak or Starmer has to be up there with Biden or Trump for depressing choices. It's not democracy in any real sense...the system holds more power than the executive. Look how the civil service beat out department heads during this Tory run.....it's a uniparty form of democracy with minor differences between parties....neo-democracy. Quasi-democracy
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| silvertop Portishead 24 May 24 8.52am |
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God you lot are depressed. Starmer will come in to an already upturning economy. Just like Trump did with Obama, he will claim full credit for all the steady work currently being done. You lot detest Blair as some demi demon, but 2% growth with 2% inflation and close to full employment and the country was in a happy place - until Iraq. There is no reason why we won't return to this with lowering interest rates further stimulating the economy. And all this conspiratorial clap trap about opening the doors to millions of immigrants who vote Labour. I suspect Labour will play lip service to a "strong" border and be just as ineffective as those who have held power for the last 14 years. This isn't the 1960s. Labour wont suddenly hike tax and cause a brain flight to the US. Neither happened under either Blair or Brown (in fact we had plenty of good, wealthy people wanting to locate here - Cher, Madonna!) so why would it happen now? I wont vote Labour. That said, they will not be as good as the Cameron and May governments in terms of economic stewardship and ethical leadership, but they will be a damn sight better than the government since 2019. That they went in on a landslide and became the most inept government in modern times. Even Labour can only improve on that.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 24 May 24 10.48am |
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May, ethical? She did her best to derail Brexit against the result of the referendum. Her negotiating was so inept she was either very dim or deliberately spiking the guns
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| silvertop Portishead 24 May 24 4.33pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
May, ethical? She did her best to derail Brexit against the result of the referendum. Her negotiating was so inept she was either very dim or deliberately spiking the guns Compared to the populist Brexit mob, certainly.
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