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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 20 Jul 17 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Funny that because I thought that the Labour plan was to borrow even more money so our kids have an even bigger national debt on their hands. No doubt they will increase hand outs to the unemployed and minority interests. After all, that is where they get many of their votes from. Bracknell?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 17 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Bracknell? Is that near 'Ur anus?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Jul 17 4.37pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Is that near 'Ur anus? If that's how you refer to Queen Liz in a reverential voice, then yes it is quite near Windsor. Edited by nickgusset (20 Jul 2017 4.38pm)
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| Stirlingsays 20 Jul 17 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Funny that because I thought that the Labour plan was to borrow even more money so our kids have an even bigger national debt on their hands. No doubt they will increase hand outs to the unemployed and minority interests. After all, that is where they get many of their votes from. You can stick your Labour party where the Sun don't shine. Lots of 'progressives' within Labour know that to change society you have to bring its current model down.....I don't think they are all that worried about debt...because secretly in their minds all that will be wiped or become unimportant within a new order. For a lot of them it's about 'feelings' and 'justice' before any practical elements of capitalism. Most of us were left wingers when we were young and didn't really understand capitalism and socialism nor how to compare to other systems. Plenty of people grow out of being left wing once they start paying any significant taxes as adults.....Many never do and unsurprisingly their political position doesn't change. In my travels in life I met a few left wing minded people with high minded ideals for others but who also put a lot of effort into paying as little tax as possible. They may not like to reflect upon it...but for many of them it isn't about rationality but rather self interest....Or...if they aren't at the party then let the party burn.....A kind of resentment born of envy.....In some respects a justified resentment but that's how it seems to me.
Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2017 5.02pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 17 4.57pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
If that's how you refer to Queen Liz in a reverential voice, then yes it is quite near Windsor. Edited by nickgusset (20 Jul 2017 4.38pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 17 5.04pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Lots of 'progressives' within Labour know that to change society you have to bring its current model down.....I don't think they are all that worried about debt...because secretly in their minds all that will be wiped or become unimportant within a new order. For a lot of them it's about 'feelings' and 'justice' before any practical elements of capitalism. Most of us were left wingers when we were young and didn't really understand capitalism and socialism nor how to compare to other systems. Plenty of people grow out of being left wing once they start paying any significant taxes as adults.....Many never do and unsurprisingly their political position doesn't change. They may not like to reflect upon it...but for many of them it isn't about rationality but rather self interest....Or...if they aren't at the party then let the party burn.....A kind of resentment born of envy.....In some respects a justified resentment but that's how it seems to me.
Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2017 4.53pm) Turning personal frustrations into a political crusade is common among underachievers I suspect. The secret is to be self aware enough to recognise the tendency and control it.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 20 Jul 17 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Funny that because I thought that the Labour plan was to borrow even more money so our kids have an even bigger national debt on their hands. No doubt they will increase hand outs to the unemployed and minority interests. After all, that is where they get many of their votes from. You can stick your Labour party where the Sun don't shine. Borrow to invest in the economy, education and in public services. Make it productive and it will reap returns. Gearing only works where you put the money you borrow to good use. Tories have not done that. They just gave it away to their mates like some sort of Ponzi scheme.
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 20 Jul 17 5.13pm |
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Wow who would of thought it... Crime at its highest in 10 years, Police numbers at their lowest since 1985 and more officers resigned last year than ever before. Do you think that Teresa still thinks that the Police are 'crying wolf' over cuts and that it is possible to do 'more with less' as she told the Police Federation Conference in 2015??
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 20 Jul 17 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You really make me laugh. So it's not to do with our stupid move toward diesel vehicles or the British desire to drink themselves silly or Chernobyl or increasingly poor diet or the limits of the NHS with a rapidly increasing population or the fact many peoples life spans could have been determined over decades with all kinds of environmental factors in play? What level will you Labour minions stoop to next? There are a number of contributing factors, however austerity and cuts to public services and cuts to living standards are a major factor. You can control for all these factors by comparing with other countries.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 20 Jul 17 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
Wow who would of thought it... Crime at its highest in 10 years, Police numbers at their lowest since 1985 and more officers resigned last year than ever before. Do you think that Teresa still thinks that the Police are 'crying wolf' over cuts and that it is possible to do 'more with less' as she told the Police Federation Conference in 2015?? I certainly think she's too spineless to admit to ever being wrong about anything.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 17 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Borrow to invest in the economy, education and in public services. Make it productive and it will reap returns. Gearing only works where you put the money you borrow to good use. Tories have not done that. They just gave it away to their mates like some sort of Ponzi scheme. Because it worked so well for Labour last time.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Jul 17 5.21pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
There are a number of contributing factors, however austerity and cuts to public services and cuts to living standards are a major factor. You can control for all these factors by comparing with other countries. No you can't. It would be highly unscientific to do so because there are far too many unknown factors.
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