It's a reality that the most fervent Labour supporters, in today's climate, are from the far left. It's why Labour are about to be battered in this election.

From within that group the 'nut' content is unsurprisingly high. So when a particularly 'nutty' comment is made I think it's fair enough to highlight its nuttiness.

I'd like to type the word, 'nut' again, just in case you feel it has been woefully underrepresented from within this post.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Jun 2017 11.53am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Terrorism is rejected by all parties but you can't bomb the crap out of Libya and expect there to be no reaction.

Yes I am.

If it was you and some foreign power blew your family to bits you could be a terrorist to.

More nuttiness....Much more of this and there will be an activist campaign to tax the levels.

Britain's part in 2011 intervention in Libya was to be apart of a 10 country NATO-led coalition, later expanding to 19, to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973.

The U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing force in Libya stated, the goal of intervention was 'to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack.' This was achieved.

Gaddafi’s forces were marching toward Benghazi and a massive massacre was about to occur. This is why we bombed Libya. Gaddafi's intention was clear. He called protesters 'cockroaches' and vowed to cleanse Libya 'inch by inch, house by house, home by home, alleyway by alleyway.' The Libyan people on the ground ultimately overthrew Gaddafi not us.

The Libya intervention has been used to present any foreign military intervention as a failure. The logic being that unless the country affected quickly becomes a stable, democratic country that the intervention must be viewed as a failure. Even when these interventions are not built upon the notion of nation building. These people don't of course think about what Libya would look like today if Nato hadn't intervened.

I think this type of thinking sees the world in a very short sighted and simplistic, 'good or bad', 'black and white' way. It fails to consider what the alternatives actually were. It's ignorance.

Terrorists give many justifications for what they do. You aren't going to stop attacks by appeasing these justifications. As IS have said themselves, they will attack us whatever we do.

Many of the far left apparently think that you can talk....the 'hug a jihadi' line. It confirms and promotes the contempt that many of them have for the weak western mind.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Jun 2017 12.32pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Whatever happened in Libya has nothing to do with us at all.

But you said: "If it was you and some foreign power blew your family to bits you could be a terrorist too."

Leaving aside that you are saying I would be a terrorist, your statement clearly implies that you think it is justifiable to be a terrorist and carry out such acts as Manchester.
I've just seen on the BBC site that your terrorist chums have blown up mourners at an Afghan funeral -
no doubt wholly justified in your eyes.

Edited by hedgehog50 (03 Jun 2017 1.08pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Steeleye is the kind of guy who thinks axe murderers are, in general, of great benefit to society and enrich us - the NHS would probably collapse without them, and that is is wrong to stereotype axe murderers.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

That, my dear Rumpole, is an utterly preposterous notion. It's the one thing he doesn't do and he invariably crumbles when challenged.

Unfortunately it happened its too late to do anything about it.

However foreign policy has to change IMO.

We are grotesque either bombing others ourselves or supplying the weapons for other countries to bomb and main innocent civilians.

'you are voting to sack people'

How Tory that is never mind killing countless of innocent people I might lose my job !!