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 cryrst  The garden of England 20 May 20 10.48pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There is a limit, I'd agree with you and Cryrst on that. But I do agree that in general it should be frowned upon. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 May 2020 10.41pm) What shouldn't be grassed up?
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| BlueJay UK 20 May 20 10.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Where I come from being a grass is frowned upon. It's unlikely that you genuinely have a problem with someone getting their own back on their boss - and abiding by the law - in such circumstances, so it's a non point to begin with. This isn't some cheeky individual doing a bit of cash in hand on the side. It's an employer in a position of power exploiting people in a way that threatens their livelihood and forces them to engage in free labour at a troubling time when every penny count. I have little concern for those who behave in a substandard manner towards others.
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| BlueJay UK 20 May 20 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Even a boss that's stiffing you ? Well said that man. If they pay a price for stiffing their workers, they may think twice about repeating it in future.
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Rudi Hedman  Caterham 20 May 20 11.08pm |
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It seems as though a lot of people are deciding when their lockdown ends, and social distancing for some, is at an end. I disagreed with this at first now I’m not. And it again indicates how difficult it is to put the British in detention. If it was wet and cold it would be easier, but it wasn’t, even in the beginning. One or two reported new cases in London. Obviously there will be more who don’t report it or dare I say, soldier on, but it’s the comparison that’s key.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 May 20 11.22pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I’d change our lockdown policies by bringing all dates forward by at least 6-8 weeks. They’re buckling on the holidays anyway. Some of the hysteria and reluctance to acknowledge any figures that proves only vulnerable need to remain shielded on Twitter is unreal. There was one female doctor saying that no lockdown would mean asymptomatic people spreading the virus in shops causing more chance of the vulnerable catching it at home. You couldn’t make it up. If their family are getting into contact with them then yes that’s possible. If they don’t then they won’t become infected. And supermarket shop floors are very safe these days if you aim to be safe. It’s in the staff areas there will be no social distancing. I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group. The supermarkets, and indeed the DIY stores and garden centres, are better organised. It's their customers who cannot be trusted. I was in one today, the first time I had been for many weeks, and only then because we needed something urgently. Several shoppers just walked past me without a care in the world as though the lockdown being eased meant everything was back to normal. I am not in the extremely high risk category but nevertheless have been taking all sensible precautions. You cannot though control what others do. We all rely on one another and then have to assess the risk for ourselves. I won't be doing another supermarket visit again any time soon. You may think we are going too slowly. I think we are going every bit as fast as is possible, and maybe a bit too fast. Requiring the very vulnerable to isolate completely may well be the only way to ensure their complete safety but their mental health needs to be considered too. Life isn't all about economics and ensuring continuous growth. People's welfare is a vital aspect too and the vulnerable are every bit as important as everyone else.
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| BlueJay UK 20 May 20 11.23pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It seems as though a lot of people are deciding when their lockdown ends, and social distancing for some, is at an end. I disagreed with this at first now I’m not. And it again indicates how difficult it is to put the British in detention. If it was wet and cold it would be easier, but it wasn’t, even in the beginning. One or two reported new cases in London. Obviously there will be more who don’t report it or dare I say, soldier on, but it’s the comparison that’s key. It pays for businesses and individuals to take sensible measures to keep the r0 rate down. That said, I agree that people are going stir crazy and there's only so long that they can be penned in. Broadly speaking those most at risk know that they are. I don't blame them for keeping a low profile, just as I don't blame tothers for wanting to kickstart the economy and get back to some semblance of normality.
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 20 11.27pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's unlikely that you genuinely have a problem with someone getting their own back on their boss - and abiding by the law - in such circumstances, so it's a non point to begin with. This isn't some cheeky individual doing a bit of cash in hand on the side. It's an employer in a position of power exploiting people in a way that threatens their livelihood and forces them to engage in free labour at a troubling time when every penny count. I have little concern for those who behave in a substandard manner towards others.
I was just making a general statement really.
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 20 11.31pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What shouldn't be grassed up? Not for me, it has to be serious.....I think most people know what I mean.
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| BlueJay UK 20 May 20 11.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I was just making a general statement really. Obviously not, but don't worry I won't grass you up, you slagggg.
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| Stirlingsays 20 May 20 11.34pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Obviously not, but don't worry I won't grass you up, you slagggg.
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| BlueJay UK 20 May 20 11.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
YES, a happy face!!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 May 20 11.37pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am pretty sure that what that female doctor meant was if there were no lockdown restrictions of any kind in place, including those which have applied to the high-risk categories, then the asymptomatic would be the cause of the spread. She wouldn't have said that if there was still a partial lockdown applied to the high-risk group. No the one I read was replying in a thread that was talking about elderly and vulnerable shielding. It is not the whole country’s responsibility that someone, or everyone, shields with absolutely no contact. That is down to either the people shielding, their relatives or social workers. And the local community helping them, before I get lynched any lunatics reading this. Edited by Rudi Hedman (20 May 2020 11.49pm)
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