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 JRW2  Dulwich 19 Dec 22 11.46am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The other thing is that the Americans now own 11? PL clubs how long before they and the Arabs can out vote everybody else e.g. no relegation.
I'm astonished by that figure, even with the question mark after it. If it's even half true, it sounds as if an investigation by the Competition and Markets Authority is urgently needed.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 19 Dec 22 11.50am |
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Originally posted by JRW2
I'm astonished by that figure, even with the question mark after it. If it's even half true, it sounds as if an investigation by the Competition and Markets Authority is urgently needed.
Just looked it up. It's 10 as Bournemouth now sold. Not to mention several former Pl clubs lurking below.
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| JRW2 Dulwich 19 Dec 22 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Just looked it up. It's 10 as Bournemouth now sold. Not to mention several former Pl clubs lurking below.
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Thanks for posting that. I suppose I should have realised that you were referring to clubs with American shareholders as well as those which are wholly owned by Americans. Nevertheless a bit of an eye opener, and, as you suggested, not a welcome development. It's all a far cry from when Bob Lord - owner of a chain of local butchers' shops - was Chairman of Burnley in the early sixties, when they were one of the top clubs in the country.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 19 Dec 22 12.58pm |
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Originally posted by JRW2
Thanks for posting that. I suppose I should have realised that you were referring to clubs with American shareholders as well as those which are wholly owned by Americans. Nevertheless a bit of an eye opener, and, as you suggested, not a welcome development. It's all a far cry from when Bob Lord - owner of a chain of local butchers' shops - was Chairman of Burnley in the early sixties, when they were one of the top clubs in the country.
The future:
Good evening and welcome to Saturday Night Premier League Soccer with Gary Lineker. This is the first game of the season and after the summer drafts fans were all excited how their teams would do.
Our first game is Manchester Asia at home to Arsenal DC over to our commentor at the Singapore Theatre of Dream.
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| dreamwaverider London 19 Dec 22 6.47pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
We could have rejected the American money and now be playing in the Championship or League One. I doubt CPFC2010 could of achieved what they did, when they took over in todays landscape.
They've kept us going which is much appreciated, and Parish has steered the ship brilliantly. But I am not convinced about our current American shareholders. Harris and Blitzer were trying for Chelsea bur weren't rich enough. Now they are looking at Liverpool.
They clearly have lost their appetite for SE25. As for Texter, well he is in the game of securing as many clubs as possible around the globe, and he is certainly getting some good clubs. I don't understand his plan, but he is a trader of companies. Look at Fubo and you will see what I mean.
Texter has put some hard cash in and apparently he has got more. Not sure where his funds are coming from as his net worth was nearly all shown as coming from Fubo which has collapsed. But he is still out there trying to secure more clubs.
This January will be a big test to see if these guys have got any appetite to chuck some more cash at us.
We have to be a very good bet right now for investors, especially after the resounding financial success of the world cup. Bournemouth went for £100m and Liverpool have multiplied by ten in the last ten years to $3.5 billion. We must be worth at least £250m million.
Loads of the corporate boys would love our revenue stream of £120m p.a.
Im sure there will be more Arab consortiums heading west soon.
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia stole Newcastle at £300m and who would ever have thought Amanda Staively would deliver in such sterling fashion? She has amazed many critics, myself included. Hats off to her extraordinary talent. Bringing in Eddie Howe was a masterly move and has he performed. They could easily be champions league next season.
The doors are wide open for more investment in the premier mid range clubs. We are standing out like a sore thumb right now, well ironically us and Brighton, but our catchment area and proven crowd growth is off the scale. The opportunities with us now we have got PV are huge. Wilf would be crazy to go.!!
Exciting times are surely just round the corner here at the Palace.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 19 Dec 22 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
They've kept us going which is much appreciated, and Parish has steered the ship brilliantly. But I am not convinced about our current American shareholders. Harris and Blitzer were trying for Chelsea bur weren't rich enough. Now they are looking at Liverpool.
They clearly have lost their appetite for SE25. As for Texter, well he is in the game of securing as many clubs as possible around the globe, and he is certainly getting some good clubs. I don't understand his plan, but he is a trader of companies. Look at Fubo and you will see what I mean.
Texter has put some hard cash in and apparently he has got more. Not sure where his funds are coming from as his net worth was nearly all shown as coming from Fubo which has collapsed. But he is still out there trying to secure more clubs.
This January will be a big test to see if these guys have got any appetite to chuck some more cash at us.
We have to be a very good bet right now for investors, especially after the resounding financial success of the world cup. Bournemouth went for £100m and Liverpool have multiplied by ten in the last ten years to .5 billion. We must be worth at least £250m million.
Loads of the corporate boys would love our revenue stream of £120m p.a.
Im sure there will be more Arab consortiums heading west soon.
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia stole Newcastle at £300m and who would ever have thought Amanda Staively would deliver in such sterling fashion? She has amazed many critics, myself included. Hats off to her extraordinary talent. Bringing in Eddie Howe was a masterly move and has he performed. They could easily be champions league next season.
The doors are wide open for more investment in the premier mid range clubs. We are standing out like a sore thumb right now, well ironically us and Brighton, but our catchment area and proven crowd growth is off the scale. The opportunities with us now we have got PV are huge. Wilf would be crazy to go.!!
Exciting times are surely just round the corner here at the Palace.
Don't be ridiculous they're worth around 9 Billion between them hardly in the poor house
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| dreamwaverider London 20 Dec 22 12.40am |
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Their team did not succeed in their bid to buy Chelsea.
Edited by dreamwaverider (20 Dec 2022 12.59am)
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| Dubai Eagle 20 Dec 22 8.11am |
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CFC came onto the market quite suddenly, getting that kind of asset evaluated & preparing a bid that was to find favour with all of the stakeholders in the sellers group (ticking all boxes) in such a short time would probably have been quite a challenge - for sure its not just a case of saying, OK my bid is £x billion -
For the groups that were interested in buying CFC but didn't succeed it would be my thinking that they would have used the experience as a learning curve in the knowledge that other clubs will be coming up for sale in the future - and so it has appeared with noises of both Liverpool & Man Utd being for sale (to various degrees)
There will be other second tier clubs (for want of a better expression) where their value has increased with investment & on field success (ourselves included) where at the moment its a tad up in the air as to where our owners ( & their investments) want to take us, are they happy with mid table in the knowledge that to try for top 8 is a bigger investment than they are comfortable with, all the time we have a 25,000 seater stadium that may be a limiting factor, although Bournemouth & their shoe box going for this alleged 100 million is certainly an interesting line in the sand-
Quite honestly, at the moment there are loads of clubs who would want to be in our shoes, I feel that there has never been a better time to be a Palace fan, I do hope it continues & I remain more emotionally invested than ever ( + a season ticket obvs) to see where it takes us.
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Dec 22 10.42am |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
Their team did not succeed in their bid to buy Chelsea.
Edited by dreamwaverider (20 Dec 2022 12.59am)
I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean they couldn't afford to buy them.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Dec 22 12.01pm |
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This piece says he's completed his takeover of OL (800Eu) & that the collaboration between OL, Molenbeek & Botofago will benefit these teams, but, 'we wont forget CPFC . . .
See what you make of this . . . [Link]
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Dec 22 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
They've kept us going which is much appreciated, and Parish has steered the ship brilliantly. But I am not convinced about our current American shareholders. Harris and Blitzer were trying for Chelsea bur weren't rich enough. Now they are looking at Liverpool.
They clearly have lost their appetite for SE25. As for Texter, well he is in the game of securing as many clubs as possible around the globe, and he is certainly getting some good clubs. I don't understand his plan, but he is a trader of companies. Look at Fubo and you will see what I mean.
Texter has put some hard cash in and apparently he has got more. Not sure where his funds are coming from as his net worth was nearly all shown as coming from Fubo which has collapsed. But he is still out there trying to secure more clubs.
This January will be a big test to see if these guys have got any appetite to chuck some more cash at us.
We have to be a very good bet right now for investors, especially after the resounding financial success of the world cup. Bournemouth went for £100m and Liverpool have multiplied by ten in the last ten years to .5 billion. We must be worth at least £250m million.
Loads of the corporate boys would love our revenue stream of £120m p.a.
Im sure there will be more Arab consortiums heading west soon.
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia stole Newcastle at £300m and who would ever have thought Amanda Staively would deliver in such sterling fashion? She has amazed many critics, myself included. Hats off to her extraordinary talent. Bringing in Eddie Howe was a masterly move and has he performed. They could easily be champions league next season.
The doors are wide open for more investment in the premier mid range clubs. We are standing out like a sore thumb right now, well ironically us and Brighton, but our catchment area and proven crowd growth is off the scale. The opportunities with us now we have got PV are huge. Wilf would be crazy to go.!!
Exciting times are surely just round the corner here at the Palace.
We're valued at around £280 million I believe, so you're about right. It would be nice to buy a few players but I wouldn't be comfortable being Newcastle. That's as fake as Man City or PSG. Palace are never likely to be that anyway: just never quite happens for us.
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taylors lovechild  24 Dec 22 10.36am |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
This piece says he's completed his takeover of OL (800Eu) & that the collaboration between OL, Molenbeek & Botofago will benefit these teams, but, 'we wont forget CPFC . . .
See what you make of this . . . [Link]
The Athletic reporting Parish as saying we are looking at loan signings in January. So perhaps not forgotten, just not a priority.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Dec 22 12.08pm |
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Our ownership seems rubbish, quite frankly. We need someone who wants to flash the cash
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| m/k mick milton keynes 24 Dec 22 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Our ownership seems rubbish, quite frankly. We need someone who wants to flash the cash
You for real, these are the best owners we have ever had, and all this nonsense “splash the cash”, we now have a fantastic academy, 10 plus years a premier side, a new stand on its way, brilliant owners, i have been going to Selhurst for 60 plus years, i repeat they are the very best we have ever had, SUPPORT them
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 24 Dec 22 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by m/k mick
You for real, these are the best owners we have ever had, and all this nonsense “splash the cash”, we now have a fantastic academy, 10 plus years a premier side, a new stand on its way, brilliant owners, i have been going to Selhurst for 60 plus years, i repeat they are the very best we have ever had, SUPPORT them
I'd far rather support the club than some Americans trying to make a profit or some guy trying to make a footballing empire with us not at the top of it.
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| dreamwaverider London 28 Dec 22 5.46pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
I'm aware of that, but that doesn't mean they couldn't afford to buy them.
As I understand it, Eagle Football Inc (Textor) owns 40% of Palace. Harris and Blitzer through their holding companies just shy of that say 36%. Parish has approx 20% and Franco c.4%.
So Eagle Holdings own a minority stake in us as do Harris and Blitzer.
I picked up this quote from Texter on completing the deal of Lyon....
.....When the deal was announced Textor said: “Olympique Lyonnais will be the cornerstone of our project. I intend, with the support of Jean-Michel and his teams, to bring out the values ​​of development and self-improvement for which I have always been committed.”
Im assuming he is talking about Eagle's stable of soccer clubs.
So neither Eagle nor Harris and Blitzer have a majority share in us.
Maybe you could give me your opinion of where you think all this could possibly be heading. As you rightly pointed out of course Harris single handedly has the wealth to have bought Chelsea, just not convinced he wanted to be that deep in. Maybe you or anyone else who is aware of this situation could enlighten me.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Dec 22 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
As I understand it, Eagle Football Inc (Textor) owns 40% of Palace. Harris and Blitzer through their holding companies just shy of that say 36%. Parish has approx 20% and Franco c.4%.
So Eagle Holdings own a minority stake in us as do Harris and Blitzer.
I picked up this quote from Texter on completing the deal of Lyon....
.....When the deal was announced Textor said: “Olympique Lyonnais will be the cornerstone of our project. I intend, with the support of Jean-Michel and his teams, to bring out the values ​​of development and self-improvement for which I have always been committed.”
Im assuming he is talking about Eagle's stable of soccer clubs.
So neither Eagle nor Harris and Blitzer have a majority share in us.
Maybe you could give me your opinion of where you think all this could possibly be heading. As you rightly pointed out of course Harris single handedly has the wealth to have bought Chelsea, just not convinced he wanted to be that deep in. Maybe you or anyone else who is aware of this situation could enlighten me.
So, from what I understand ;
1. The 2010 consortium as a group were not in it for the long haul
2. When the other three members decided to sell their shares, Parish needed to find not just replacements but people willing to further invest in the club.
3. A caveat to any prospective investors was that Parish would remain in charge of running the club.
4. Plenty of offers were forthcoming but only Harris and Blitzer were identified as being suitable. Even then Parish had to win them back after they initially cooled in their interest.
5. Harris and Blitzer were reported to want to sell their shares some years back, pre Textor and Chelsea sale days.
6. Textor is not unique in owning a portfolio of clubs, but how he intends to make it work remains to be seen. The only tangible events have been the loans of O'Brien and Plange to his Belgian club.
Clarity that I would like is ;
1. I thought the Harris and Blitzer original £100m investment had been ' ring fenced ' for stadium development - that seems to have dropped off the radar ;
2. If there are indeed any benefits in being part of Textor's Eagle Group.
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| Plaistow Eagle 29 Dec 22 8.57am |
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Worrying if true..!!
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Dec 22 9.10am |
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Perhaps this explains why he is so keen on us taking the new Brazilian 18yo superstar that apparently all the top clubs in Europe want to sign?
Or is it a case of him trying to flog an over hyped asset to a bunch of mugs so he can pay the wage bill.
I hope I am wrong on all of this but I did warn this type of thing might happen.
Edited by Badger11 (29 Dec 2022 9.10am)
Edited by Badger11 (29 Dec 2022 9.11am)
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Dec 22 2.45pm |
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Somebody's probably been nicking the money. It is South America -beacon of non corruption.
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