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Not sure I feel that if Roy stays, we stay up and I’m 64 - What’s Twitter ;-)
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Originally posted by grumpymort
The issue is same old system and names this is what is annoying people We are losing he brings on another defensive midfielder or ward who has played all the games is struggling he doesn't even try another player in that position. What about the youth giving someone like 5min is just a waste of time. Even FDB didn't lose this many games in a row He didn't have the opportunity
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Roy has worked wonders when you consider he has the transfer dealing ineptitude of Freedman behind him and the refusal or possibly poverty of Parish to financially back him, but he does not seem able to tactically work out the modern game. Its like saying we had the best racing car 5 years ago so it must be one of the best now. Yes the aquad is thin, yes we have adapted the tactic of the false 9 to a level where we have false sttikers but it's the sheer rigidity. The going one behind and if he even bothers to use a sub brings on a defender. It all adds up to he either goes now or is sacked early next season. We have lost 6 on the bounce and will prubably lose 8 and hardly scored. Simply not good enough. Villa who may well go down have done better. Oh and I am a long way off my teenage years, when I was a teenager we were really crap! I recall my teenage years back in the 60s, when 'Selhurst Park' was only half full. Much later I recall gates of 6-7,000 during the infancy of the Noades era.I have certainly experienced the 'High' and the 'Lows' but even through the 'Troughs' I looked forward to home games but not any more on account of the dross and lack of goals at 'Selhurst Park'. In those days one would witness 'blood and thunder' tackles with none of this simulation and going to ground when one feels the breath of an opponent.There were also a variety of chants and songs, some very derogatory, but these have disappeared in this modern era.
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Originally posted by Jackeagle
The twitter bandwagon of teenagers screaming for Roy out has now truly got under my skin. Yes, through a combination of poor performances and bad luck we have now lost 6 in a row, but our position far from the relegation zone and not far from top 10 goes to show how well he has done prior to lockdown. The man has worked miracles despite hardly ever being backed in the market. To be honest, bar Benteke and Mama (who I believe have been very poor value for money), none of our squad were particularly expensive signings. I’m not saying Roy is flawless (lack of subs particularly frustrates me), but his astute defensive and tactical knowledge i imagine is far superior to any new manager we could attract. Ok, we don’t score enough goals, but we really do not have the firepower to enable us to do so, as teams often double up on Wilf, with Ayew being the only other genuine threat. If Roy stays, we stay up. If he goes, there’s a risk that if it goes wrong we could be in trouble. without risk there is no reward (or chance of advancing the club). People need to get over this whole 'our annual objective is to stay up'. I am more ambitious in life and for my club. I would rather see us take the next step and fail, rather than be bored with unadventurous mediocrity season-after-season, which will ultimately see us relegated anyway as fans and players lose interest after realising we have no ambition as a club.
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
without risk there is no reward (or chance of advancing the club). People need to get over this whole 'our annual objective is to stay up'. I am more ambitious in life and for my club. I would rather see us take the next step and fail, rather than be bored with unadventurous mediocrity season-after-season, which will ultimately see us relegated anyway as fans and players lose interest after realising we have no ambition as a club. Sometimes supporters and 'Boards' see matters differently as there are different dynamics at play not least finances.
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Originally posted by Willo
I recall my teenage years back in the 60s, when 'Selhurst Park' was only half full. Much later I recall gates of 6-7,000 during the infancy of the Noades era.I have certainly experienced the 'High' and the 'Lows' but even through the 'Troughs' I looked forward to home games but not any more on account of the dross and lack of goals at 'Selhurst Park'. In those days one would witness 'blood and thunder' tackles with none of this simulation and going to ground when one feels the breath of an opponent.There were also a variety of chants and songs, some very derogatory, but these have disappeared in this modern era. So we need to relocate to Divison Three South and play five forwards and no offside, sorry time has moved on perhaps you should move with it.
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Originally posted by beak
So we need to relocate to Divison Three South and play five forwards and no offside, sorry time has moved on perhaps you should move with it. You sound like my dear wife who often calls me a "Stick-in the mud" irascible old chap who is stuck in the dark ages and is often NO lighthouse of joy.
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
He didn't have the opportunity
losing 6 in a row is unacceptable
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How many of the last 8 fixtures would we really have expected to win? People throwing their toys about over our run of defeats and Roy's tactics is quite ridiculous under the circumstances. Those 4 points between Villa and Burnley would have been acceptable as well. Trouble is, like all the other games (other than Bournemouth 1st half) we have been awful or played top 6 Sides who didn’t have to play at 100% to win. If we had got those 4 points together with the 42 we would have accepted that as progress. However not looking like we will get any points since that Bournemouth match we are heading for a bad next season.
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Based on him staying, which I believe he will, I do have concerns with him using young players who may join in the summer. There is a certain perception about Hodgson. I heard the view expressed the other day that Hodgson would feel far more comfortable playing Chris Brunt (35) and Gareth Barry 38, next season, with their experience, than take a chance on younger players!
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Grumpy, you are somewhat boring as usual, perhaps you could take some happy pills before next season.
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Originally posted by gerry theagle
Grumpy, you are somewhat boring as usual, perhaps you could take some happy pills before next season. I think that 'Grumpy' and I would get on like a house on fire! Only the other day my dear wife said she would be looking for a T-Shirt for me emblazoned with the words "Miserable as sin".
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How many of the last 8 fixtures would we really have expected to win? People throwing their toys about over our run of defeats and Roy's tactics is quite ridiculous under the circumstances. Loss of Tomo has been a big blow at the back as well. My choice for CB pairings. However we do usually fair well at the end of the season, apart from Pards reign, where we took that form into the next season !?! With 2 tough games to come, right to raise a few eyebrows but we will have to see how we shape up at the beginning of next season. Hopefully with a solid back 4 and some new attacking options.
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