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  georgenorman  27 Mar 24 12.50pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
To be fair, I believe that even "Hate" parties should get a vote if you want to see true democracy at play. Whether that be hatred of the rich or immigrants or homosexuals or Catholics or whatever... But then the 1930s happened, and we saw what a combination of hard times and populism can bring. You may see those in power as self-serving elites. That may indeed be true. But I genuinely think that many in power are also terrified of a repeat of history, especially those with influence who were most effected by the last horrors. They will fight to the death with all they have to ensure it doesn't happen again. If that means banning and oppressing hate parties, then so be it. The three main parties are 'Hate' parties, they hate white, straight, working class people, most men in general (particularly anyone with the surname of Trump) and many in Labour hate Jews as well. Edited by georgenorman (27 Mar 2024 12.53pm)
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 27 Mar 24 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That jigsaw just happens to be missing a piece on decolonising 3 short stories written over 100 years ago and involoves travelling to Hawaii at someone else's expense. I’d love to know whether this was approved by the attending of numerous sub-committees that each put their stamp on the project. I’d particularly like to know whether the university’s environmental impact department had any objections, and what their comments were. Maybe man made climate change isn’t as important after all…
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Teddy Eagle  27 Mar 24 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
And that’s all it involves? Wow. You must have inside knowledge. Or read the Daily Mail. I read their website which has no mention of any other components. Certainly none which require spending time in Hawaii or Samoa. Why is inside knowledge a prerequisite?
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| silvertop Portishead 27 Mar 24 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
'Hate' parties? Sounds kinda fun....does everyone have to bring their own rotten fruit to throw at people? Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Mar 2024 12.45pm) Indeed. Available for weddings bar mitzvahs and hate parties
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 24 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I read their website which has no mention of any other components. Certainly none which require spending time in Hawaii or Samoa. Why is inside knowledge a prerequisite? Do you think whoever writes the copy for their website is also part of the group who reviews the application and recommends whether it is accepted? Or do you think they just write a short summary? All I am saying is that only those who actually made the decision have all the information and know why it was made. If that’s their job then so long as the funder is happy we should let them do their job. There are far too many know it alls around. Especially if they allow themselves to be “informed” by the Daily Mail.
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| georgenorman 27 Mar 24 3.16pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you think whoever writes the copy for their website is also part of the group who reviews the application and recommends whether it is accepted? Or do you think they just write a short summary? All I am saying is that only those who actually made the decision have all the information and know why it was made. If that’s their job then so long as the funder is happy we should let them do their job. There are far too many know it alls around. Especially if they allow themselves to be “informed” by the Daily Mail. Well, at least we are agreed on one thing.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 24 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Well, at least we are agreed on one thing. Somehow I doubt we do!
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| georgenorman 27 Mar 24 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Enoch Powell was undoubtedly an interesting man with many admirable qualities, especially in his early academic and military life. The idea that his failure to attain the position of PM was the start of British decline is though risible. More like a bullet dodged. Even the Telegraph accused him of playing into the hands of the National Front and being a racist. His attitude can though be heard today in the echo chambers of the right. If he was still with us he would no doubt be regularly to be seen on GBNews and being touted as the next leader of Reform and the man to “save” our country. Other opinions exist:- "I hope those who shouted 'Fascist' and 'Nazi' are aware that before they were born I was fighting against Fascism and Nazism." [Enoch Powell]
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Mar 24 3.35pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Do you think whoever writes the copy for their website is also part of the group who reviews the application and recommends whether it is accepted? Or do you think they just write a short summary? All I am saying is that only those who actually made the decision have all the information and know why it was made. If that’s their job then so long as the funder is happy we should let them do their job. There are far too many know it alls around. Especially if they allow themselves to be “informed” by the Daily Mail. Do you think that if there were any hoped for extra benefit from this research that it might be mentioned anywhere?
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| Stirlingsays 27 Mar 24 3.44pm |
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Enoch Powell was right and is a hero. Fifth columnists can go to hell.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Stirlingsays 27 Mar 24 3.45pm |
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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 24 8.37pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
"I hope those who shouted 'Fascist' and 'Nazi' are aware that before they were born I was fighting against Fascism and Nazism." [Enoch Powell] I gave him due credit for that. He also stood up and argued against MPs who regarded Africans as sub human. As I said he was an interesting and highly intellectual man. All that was praiseworthy. No hint of racism or fascism in his early life. It was only when her flipped and allowed political ambition to dominate his reasoning that he harnessed himself to the cause of stopping immigration into the UK, becoming populist and appealing to the likes of the National Front. Which was a pity as far from making his political career, it finished it. He was no fool. He would have realised that the path we were on was inevitable and no number of emotional speeches was going to change that. Rather than fight against the inevitable it would have been much more productive to try to shape it and manage it, but he chose not to.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 24 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Do you think that if there were any hoped for extra benefit from this research that it might be mentioned anywhere? I expect that it is, in the files supporting the application. Not though available to us, or the Mail, who wouldn’t be interested anyway. Those in authority are always subject to criticism. It’s more reasonable though when all the facts are known and they have had an opportunity to explain. Basing opinions solely on a report in a rag like the Mail does not meet that criteria.
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| georgenorman 27 Mar 24 9.04pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I gave him due credit for that. He also stood up and argued against MPs who regarded Africans as sub human. As I said he was an interesting and highly intellectual man. All that was praiseworthy. No hint of racism or fascism in his early life. It was only when her flipped and allowed political ambition to dominate his reasoning that he harnessed himself to the cause of stopping immigration into the UK, becoming populist and appealing to the likes of the National Front. Which was a pity as far from making his political career, it finished it. He was no fool. He would have realised that the path we were on was inevitable and no number of emotional speeches was going to change that. Rather than fight against the inevitable it would have been much more productive to try to shape it and manage it, but he chose not to. "It depends on how you define the word 'racialist'. If you mean being conscious of the differences between men and nations, and from that, races, then we are all racialists. However, if you mean a man who despises a human being because he belongs to another race, or a man who believes that one race is inherently superior to another, then the answer is emphatically 'No'." [Enoch Powell]
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Mar 24 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I expect that it is, in the files supporting the application. Not though available to us, or the Mail, who wouldn’t be interested anyway. Those in authority are always subject to criticism. It’s more reasonable though when all the facts are known and they have had an opportunity to explain. Basing opinions solely on a report in a rag like the Mail does not meet that criteria. And why do you expect it's there?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 24 9.25pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And why do you expect it's there? Where else would it be other than in the rationale behind the request defining the objectives and anticipated outcomes.
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| Teddy Eagle 27 Mar 24 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Where else would it be other than in the rationale behind the request defining the objectives and anticipated outcomes. Not an answer. Why do you expect it exists?
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| JRW2 Dulwich 28 Mar 24 8.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I expect that it is, in the files supporting the application. Not though available to us, or the Mail, who wouldn’t be interested anyway. Those in authority are always subject to criticism. It’s more reasonable though when all the facts are known and they have had an opportunity to explain. Basing opinions solely on a report in a rag like the Mail does not meet that criteria. Criterion
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Mar 24 9.24am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not an answer. Why do you expect it exists? I don’t but it appears you do. I don’t know, because I haven’t seen the brief. There must though be quite a lot more to this than is suggested by the Mail’s “anti-woke” story froth. £800,000 is a lot of money for a 3 year research project which almost certainly will be primarily the responsibility of students, who are themselves paying for the privilege of taking part. Any University staff will be salaried. So the money is for additional costs. That’s a lot of airfares and accommodation! I don’t know but instinctively my trust in the story is low. Something doesn’t add up. Maybe they got too many 0s in the total!
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