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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Jul 20 4.01pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

What circumstances would those be? Relatively meaningless fixtures when the majority of the first team are woefully out of form?

Isn’t that quite literally the ideal time to blood a couple of youngsters?

I didn't see a "woefully out of form first team" against Man Ure or Chelsea for that matter. We need something out of the last two games for the squad's confidence, if nothing else. The games aren't meaningless in the context of our post-lockdown meltdown.

 

CrazyBadger Flag Ware 20 Jul 20 4.21pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

There is a reason why there is no changes made. Our bench is like something from a Sunday league.

Maybe - but personnel isn't the only thing you can change. Formation, tactics, Jeez, even if it's get Zaha and townsend to swap wings some more(or at all)


pretty sure RH used to work at the university of Pennsylvania.....

Edited by CrazyBadger (20 Jul 2020 4.22pm)

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"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

jeeagles Flag 20 Jul 20 4.27pm

Originally posted by Ian-VI

Last played in 2016
Last coached (assistant coach) in 2014
Last time in the board of a multi sports club in 2016.

Would be curious about you.

February/March.

Retired twice but decied at the end of last season to prioritise playing over trekking over to Selhurst rubbish that Hodgson expects us to pay for.

You still haven't addressed any of my points btw. Typical of the type of posters that blindly support Hodgson.

What would you do if someone was in charge of one of your teams, who was refusuing to change a losing side and showed no interestest in the long term sustainability of the club?


Edited by jeeagles (20 Jul 2020 4.30pm)

 

EddieMac Flag 20 Jul 20 4.32pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Take our last bench.

9 players. 5 of them have played internationally, including for England, Germany, and the Netherlands.

Played - past tense of the word play.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 20 Jul 20 4.33pm

Originally posted by doombear

I didn't see a "woefully out of form first team" against Man Ure or Chelsea for that matter. We need something out of the last two games for the squad's confidence, if nothing else. The games aren't meaningless in the context of our post-lockdown meltdown.

If we’re at a point now where people won’t even acknowledge we’re woefully out of form, there’s little point discussing. We’ve lost 6 in a row, failing to score in 5 of those. By absolutely any definition that’s a woeful run of form.

 

EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 20 Jul 20 4.38pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Played - past tense of the word play.

So someone who was good enough for Germany at 19, is now Sunday league standard? Same question for Netherlands and England.

The defence of Roy is getting sillier and sillier.

 

EddieMac Flag 20 Jul 20 4.43pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

So someone who was good enough for Germany at 19, is now Sunday league standard? Same question for Netherlands and England.

The defence of Roy is getting sillier and sillier.

I was exaggerating with the Sunday league comparison but our subs bench as a whole is desperate. As for Meyer, being good enough for Germany at 19 means absolutely nothing right now when he can’t even get a kick for us. Roy may be 1 dimensional but there is a reason Meyer doesn’t play. He is not good enough to play.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jul 20 4.45pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

I was exaggerating with the Sunday league comparison but our subs bench as a whole is desperate. As for Meyer, being good enough for Germany at 19 means absolutely nothing right now when he can’t even get a kick for us. Roy may be 1 dimensional but there is a reason Meyer doesn’t play. He is not good enough to play.

We've never played Meyer in his actual position, or even given him a run of games. Frustrating situation.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Putitout Flag Oxford 20 Jul 20 5.03pm

Meyer has had two years to make his mark, He hasn’t had a run, because he hasn’t warranted a run, he has made any number of appearances ,apart from the odd bright ten minutes he has not looked like holding any position down. All that has happened with him is ,that it’s now clear why he was allowed to leave Germany.
We all held our breath with Meyer, two years is a longtime though, and only he could have delivered.

 

jeeagles Flag 20 Jul 20 5.16pm

Originally posted by EddieMac
Played - past tense of the word play.

You're claim was that they were Sunday League quality.

My fact was that out of the last bench, 5 players had played international.

I'll pop down the park on sunday and ask the local side how many of their players have had a call up for Germany.

Not really word play is it?

Reidewald might well be a current international if he got a look in.

 

jeeagles Flag 20 Jul 20 5.20pm

Originally posted by Putitout

Meyer has had two years to make his mark, He hasn’t had a run, because he hasn’t warranted a run, he has made any number of appearances ,apart from the odd bright ten minutes he has not looked like holding any position down. All that has happened with him is ,that it’s now clear why he was allowed to leave Germany.
We all held our breath with Meyer, two years is a longtime though, and only he could have delivered.

Would have thought the few bright 10 minutes spells were enough to warrant a run in the team?

He might not be fantastic, but we've lost the last 6 and not tried to change anything.

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 20 Jul 20 5.44pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Would have thought the few bright 10 minutes spells were enough to warrant a run in the team?

He might not be fantastic, but we've lost the last 6 and not tried to change anything.


The opposite , beyond ten minutes he hasn’t displayed the upper body strength and stamina, to compete in this league for ninety minutes. Once his early momentum goes he is to easily taken off the ball. One of our biggest problems, which he doesn’t alter .

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 20 Jul 20 5.45pm

Don’t worry everyone Roy thinks we’re playing chess...

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SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 20 Jul 20 5.45pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Still using that lovely patronising tone, I see - nice chap.

Maybe they aren’t good enough.. know the easiest way to find out? Play them. If they bomb the next couple of games and never appear in the first team again.. what have we lost?

Mitchell looked fine in the cameo the other day, been linked with a move to Spurs after they were impressed with him at youth level. Similarly Pierrick has looked fine in cameos. Why are they on the bench if they’re so far from being good enough?

They didn’t know, and presumably didn’t think, AWB was good enough, and that turned out alright didn’t it.

I am actually quite a nice bloke

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

the.universal 20 Jul 20 5.51pm

A few people on here talking about a potential 8 game losing streak. Let’s not get all whiny until it happens, eh? And let’s not forget the 4 in a row before we started losing.

 


Vive le Roy!

SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 20 Jul 20 5.53pm

Originally posted by the.universal

A few people on here talking about a potential 8 game losing streak. Let’s not get all whiny until it happens, eh? And let’s not forget the 4 in a row before we started losing.

Spot on!!!!

 


“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 20 Jul 20 5.56pm

You must only play with three defensive minded midfielders is the tactic employed. Aside from free kicks and penalties, how many goals do you think our electric midfield dynamos (Kouyate, Milivojevic, McArthur, McCarthy) chipped in with this season? The answer is one goal for Kouyate. So the sum total of assistance to our goal scoring from our regular perm any 3 from 4 is one goal in open play all season. How can that possibly work at this level. When you add to this the fact Wilf has only got 4 and Andros 1 you have to think this team with these tactics are in trouble.

It is little wonder we are the second lowest scorers in the league and what is even more frightening is that the next closest has scored 7 goals more than us.

Well done Roy for keeping us up again but I very much doubt you can do it again with this team.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 20 Jul 20 5.57pm

Originally posted by SwordFish

Spot on!!!!

And the three in a row we lost before the 4 game streak.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 20 Jul 20 6.08pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I’ve no idea if Dyche would be considered.
However, he mentioned his recent interview that his family has remained based in the south while he’s in Burnley and that he has spent much of the lockdown with them in the south.
He’s also unhappy with the Burnley wage policy inasmuch that guys like Hendrick are not being re-signed at the end of their contracts.
Palace are likely to be able to attract better players through paying higher wages.
It’s also doubtful he would get a top 6 club.
You then start to think he may have limited opportunities and Palace could be an option.

I think his family are based just North of London. We may not be a step up but perhaps being able to go home to your family at night may be a reason

 

EddieMac Flag 20 Jul 20 6.17pm

Originally posted by the.universal

A few people on here talking about a potential 8 game losing streak. Let’s not get all whiny until it happens, eh? And let’s not forget the 4 in a row before we started losing.

Short memories are all the rage on here.

 

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