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Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 6.57pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

No, that was the number of goals he let in last season.

Waaahaaaayyyy!

Ok lets keep this on one sh&t show disaster, not a different one.

This issue will be talked about for many, many years to come (not wayne, the other one).

 


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cpfc_chap Flag koh samui 03 Apr 19 7.05pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

So Ford announce that a no deal brexit would make them rethink their UK footprint. Add them to the list.

Why would Ford be an active member of project fear 2.0, and be deliberately scare mongering?

If you worked at a ford plant, how would you now feel about a no deal brexit?

Added to the list of could, maybe and prehaps!

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 7.08pm

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

Added to the list of could, maybe and prehaps!

If it was your job on the line, I am sure that would make you feel SO much better.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 7.23pm

Originally posted by cpfc_chap

Added to the list of could, maybe and prehaps!

If it was your job on the line, I am sure that would make you feel SO much better.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 03 Apr 19 7.31pm

Originally posted by blackheatheagle

What is the correlation between Turkey joining EU and Turkish nationals to apply for employment visa a prospective members? True that under EU terms Turkish national has right to apply for enterpreneur visa (not employment) but subject to approval from government and government has full control on to grant the visa or not. Business model should be convincing and should add value to Britain. It is not an automated right. Employment visa is only granted if they had worked for a certain period in UK with a work permit again subject to approvals.Interestingly all other EU members is supposed to open this route but only UK enables this..

Turkey joining to EU is the biggest lie i have ever heard which was promoted by EU Whoever believes to this is naive or needs this lie for another purpose.

Edited by blackheatheagle (03 Apr 2019 2.08pm)

Believe what you like. Having worked for Border Force for many years I do know a bit about this. I have even spoken to Turkish government officials who stated they were in the UK to pave the way for EU entry. It won't happen now (for many years) but it was very close to happening

 

.TUX. Flag 03 Apr 19 7.36pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

So Ford announce that a no deal brexit would make them rethink their UK footprint. Add them to the list.

Why would Ford be an active member of project fear 2.0, and be deliberately scare mongering?

If you worked at a ford plant, how would you now feel about a no deal brexit?

''It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning''.

Henry Ford.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 8.36pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

''It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning''.

Henry Ford.

You highlighted something in bold which I wrote, then pasted something totally irrelevant about an old dead guy.

Played.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 03 Apr 19 8.48pm

As we watch what these so called representatives do in Parliament. I'll refer you to this link.....and reminder of the statements made to the public some before and when we voted in 2016.

[Link]

 


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blackheatheagle Flag Beckenham 03 Apr 19 9.09pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Believe what you like. Having worked for Border Force for many years I do know a bit about this. I have even spoken to Turkish government officials who stated they were in the UK to pave the way for EU entry. It won't happen now (for many years) but it was very close to happening

I got you but i know all the milestones since early 90s. ( I am Turkish ) Turkey was accepted into Custom Unions in mid 90s and then was the moments when there was an impression that Turkey will likely to join. However things changed in 2000s.

EU expanded massively by accepting countries who has no stable and balance economy in 2004, (which was put as a barrier against Turkey) and this simply discouraged Turkey. Meanwhile Erdogan started ruling the country and had a very close partnership in EU to expedite the process. That moments EU supported intensively him to make Turkey `more democratic`. Not surprisingly, he deviated from this roadmap and drag the country to a single-man land.

I ensure you in 2016, there was (and still) no chance Turkey to be considered as a new EU member due to its 80 mil population with non-balanced economy and majorly different culture. Best scenario in 90s were it would be an exclusive member which has no free movement but that it not a case anymore.

The fact is that UK (and any country) has always a right to veto this, so i was never clear about the concern. If the concern is that any UK government in future may willing to vote for Turkey, i believe that government can also offer advantages even if UK is outside as well.

So Turkish government members lobbying in UK to join EU are like parliament members who is pretending to deliver Brexit

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 9.14pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I really want to know what is the Brexit for which people voted

And how people that claim to know have the data to make that determination

I happen to know that the majority of leave voters wanted a Customs Union and no freedom of movement.

I also know that re-running the referendum would result in Remaining

Edited by Mapletree (03 Apr 2019 9.45am)

Better tell the country if you know.

 


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Rubin Flag 03 Apr 19 9.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As we watch what these so called representatives do in Parliament. I'll refer you to this link.....and reminder of the statements made to the public some before and when we voted in 2016.

[Link]

Imagine a parallel universe where we had voted to remain, but the government had since pushed through a 'no deal'.

BBC/Sky/Channel 4 would be playing this on loop, 24/7.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 03 Apr 19 9.26pm

Originally posted by Rubin

Imagine a parallel universe where we had voted to remain, but the government had since pushed through a 'no deal'.

BBC/Sky/Channel 4 would be playing this on loop, 24/7.

You know it.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 9.47pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Lets examine that.

Farage would claim ahead of the piss up, that anyone attending the piss up, would be given a lifetime supply of jack daniels, via tap, installed in their front room free of charge, just for attending.

He would claim that anyone not attending his piss up, for reasons of sobriety or scheduling conflicts, or anyone doubting his tails of free whiskey, was peddling lies and fear mongering.

On the night of the piss up, he would claim that actually it wasnt going to go ahead, and concede defeat, twice, when all along he already knew the piss up was going to go ahead. He did this to drive down the price of whiskey, to make a profit, with some crooked pals.

After the boozing stopped, there was a serious 3 year hangover though, and its still going on. We need black coffee.

Meanwhile, did his acolytes get the JD tap in the lounge? Did they f&ck.

Tbh I’ve usually trusted people more if they drink.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 9.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I wonder if this thread will get to 2000.

It’ll probably be going on till the year you would’ve turned 2,000.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 10.06pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Tbh I’ve usually trusted people more if they drink.

That cuts both ways, as some become less trusthworthy I fear.

 


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.TUX. Flag 03 Apr 19 10.11pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

You highlighted something in bold which I wrote, then pasted something totally irrelevant about an old dead guy.

Played.

Far from irrelevant given your post and once again you're just a tad too dumb to see it.

Schooled.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 03 Apr 19 10.57pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Far from irrelevant given your post and once again you're just a tad too dumb to see it.

Schooled.

Go ahead and explain how its relevant to post a quote from a dead man from a bygone era, about something completely irrelevant to the line you highlighted in bold?

Pre-School.

 


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Matov Flag 03 Apr 19 11.00pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As we watch what these so called representatives do in Parliament. I'll refer you to this link.....and reminder of the statements made to the public some before and when we voted in 2016.

[Link]


What we are living through almost has a horrific beauty to it.

All that stuff about the Deep State is real. Democracy truly is nothing more than an illusion now. Yes, our votes count for silly things but ultimately, when we vote in a way that the Deep State does not approve of, we arrive where we are today.

May has destroyed her own political party. Utterly kicked the legs of her own party from beneath it. It is effectively finished now, for at least a decade.

And all in less than 48 hours. This is real history. A real turning point moment in the history of the United Kingdom. Effectively, we are over as a sovereign state.

As I understand it Hammond is about to appear on the TV pushing the benefits of a confirmatory referendum.

Brexit is over. Done.

In an odd sort of way it is a relief. My rage has been murderous. And I mean that literally. But that has passed. This feeling of utter powerlessness, of knowing that everything I was bought up to believe in about the importance of voting, of how democracy was worth upholding, why it was important to wear a poppy, to stand in 2 minutes silence because of the sacrifices made to ensure that we lived in a democracy is actually all worthless has a certain liberation to it.


The nation state as a specific political entity is now dead, at least in our part of the world. I will retain a British passport solely because it serves a purpose but ultimately I see no way forward outside of fully blown civil war.

Perhaps that might still be an option? I have made enough noises about it so who knows? Outside of the Queen calling for a popular uprising, with the backing of the Military or the Police, is there any mileage in that?

But what is not up for debate is that my vote, along with that of over 17 million other British people, is deemed of almost no relevance. We saw that tonight. Labour lied to us and the Tories lied to us. At least the Lib-Dems and the SNP made no bones about their desire to ignore us. Kudos to them for that.

Oddly enough I feel a kind of sympathy for all those t***s who went on the Remain rallies. They get to keep their beloved 'European Citizen' status but ultimately it is all a bit farcical really. Real soft-focus, life as a sickly coca-cola advert kinda thing. w***ers. Every single one of them. But in a pathetic kind of way.

I will happily spit in the face of any and every politician who betrayed us tonight. I will vote again but only ever for Brexit supporting parties. Not that it will mean much but f*** them. Make life as uncomfortable as possible for our political masters. Or at least that is what I will kid myself.

Who knows? Perhaps this will all turn out for the best but I have realised that I always thought of myself as being rather cynical but events of the last two days have made me realise how naive I truly have been. I genuinely felt that my vote on June 23rd meant something. LOL. More fool me.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 19 11.05pm

What happened? It’s been a few hours, something must have happened. Another vote, law, friendship, coalition, treachery.

 


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Matov Flag 03 Apr 19 11.16pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What happened? It’s been a few hours, something must have happened. Another vote, law, friendship, coalition, treachery.

LOL. Who knows? Chatter out there about 15 Cabinet ministers going to resign but so what if they do? May will not step down and has effectively handed over Brexit to Corbyn.

I suspect that the 15 would struggle to come up with a single spine between them but lets see. The single hope has to be that a GE is forced with the Tories becoming the effective Brexit party. But I am sick to death of getting my hopes up.

Democracy ended on March 29th at 23.00. I see little chance of it being resurrected again in my life time.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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