I am not comparing us to anyone.

I am just saying that if the reporting is true, and brexit uncertainty has cost us 550 million quid a week (a catchy line to put on a bus??) ......then I could understand that, as uncertainty is kryptonite to investment.

Well....for your statement to hold true though...you do kind of have to compare us.

The reality is that economically we compare favorably in the EU......So if 'uncertainty' leads to higher growth rates than Germany and France.....Lets have some more uncertainty please.

To be serious though, in truth, it's true that certainty for business would be better. However, it's also true that the EU isn't everything and that the indicators for the UK are generally good.....partly because we don't have the awful EU bureaucratic invention of the Mark...eh I meant to say 'Euro' restricting the operation of the economy.

Because....you know.....having control of your own country and not giving huge centralising power away overseas is generally considered a good idea.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Apr 2019 3.24pm)

The EU decides how we spend our taxes?

What nonsense.

No wonder leave is going down the tubes.

They certainly couldn't do any worse !!!!

I am not comparing us to anyone.

I am just saying that if the reporting is true, and brexit uncertainty has cost us 550 million quid a week (a catchy line to put on a bus??) ......then I could understand that, as uncertainty is kryptonite to investment.

I want to believe all of what you claim about May, I really do. But you do not achieve high political office in any country by being as stupid as you claim she is.

It simply does not wash. Personally, and here I accept I am right into the conspiracy s***, I suspect her husband has played a huge role in all of this because they are in many ways a real 'power' couple. I accept that I am socially conservative with old fashioned views but I inherently distrust the motives of any politician who does not have children. I know that can be pulled to pieces in all sorts of ways but that is my gut instinct and nothing will ever change that.

May is shrewd, with an incredibly thick skin (by all political conventions she should have gone even though she won the leadership challenge because of the amount of votes cast against her) and she does not come back to us with a deal that she knows is going to fail without having a bloody good reason.

The DUP alone are reason it is a non-starter. And the DUP are the real deal when it comes to politics. This is not a game for them and I am sure they all still have to check underneath their cars for bombs along with knowing both victims and perpetrators of terrorist killings. They are a cut above your usual self serving political types we get in the UK. I am not defending them, and have never understood all that sectarian nonsense but they don't back down easily. She would have known that.

Yes, some of the ERG did back it but I suspect they worked out what was happening. Again, these are not silly people (nobody who makes it Parliament should ever be underestimated) and I believe worked it out too late.

Revoking A50 was never a goer. They need a second referendum to offer them at least a veneer of democratic accountability. May gets the Labour Party to give her that, with the backlash shared equally between them both.

In someways it deserves kudos for the cunning.

I didnt at all.
Growing the economy isnt created by investing in the state. That doesnt make a penny profit.
It is created by allowing private business to prosper and that money would never be allowed to be invested privately.
I doubt that it would or could be invested.
Much like the bank buy out argument by some that they think the money given to bail out the banks could or would have been used on schools and hospitals etc.
Total blind thinking as a budget is a budget.
Whether the UK or yours and mine.

I didnt at all.
Growing the economy isnt created by investing in the state. That doesnt make a penny profit.
It is created by allowing private business to prosper and that money would never be allowed to be invested privately.
I doubt that it would or could be invested.
Much like the bank buy out argument by some that they think the money given to bail out the banks could or would have been used on schools and hospitals etc.
Total blind thinking as a budget is a budget.
Whether the UK or yours and mine.

‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so.

There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same.

This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco.

The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat.

It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management.

‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism.

Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***.

Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to?

What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow?

Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’

Made me laugh anyway.