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Can we adopt our 1861 date of birth?

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 22 Jun 22 9.03am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

They should carbon date the Arthur. That would show it was built in 1861. Or maybe 1681.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 22 Jun 22 9.11am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Davepalace707

They should carbon date the Arthur. That would show it was built in 1861. Or maybe 1681.

The bloke who designed the Arthur is also accredited with the invention of the wheel.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View rossboss29's Profile rossboss29 Flag Portsmouth 22 Jun 22 9.23am Send a Private Message to rossboss29 Add rossboss29 as a friend

After reading the article on here, no we can not. Parish has been made to look silly here and he or the club need to respond or put a stop to this nonsense.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 22 11.14am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

When we didn't win anything in 2005, I thought we'd missed out. At least we might see Palace win something in 2061.

 


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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 22 Jun 22 11.23am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

When we didn't win anything in 2005, I thought we'd missed out. At least we might see Palace win something in 2061.


Some of you might but not me (unless I live to 110 but even then I might become so gaga it might not mean anything to me).

Also, to answer the original question - "no we shouldn't have". Can well see the club having to back-track at some point on this matter.

Edited by doombear (22 Jun 2022 11.25am)

 

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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 22 Jun 22 11.26am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

When we didn't win anything in 2005, I thought we'd missed out. At least we might see Palace win something in 2061.

Benteke will still be under contract

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 22 11.47am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Davepalace707

Benteke will still be under contract

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 22 11.48am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

One would think this may have been worth asking the fans about.

 


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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 22 Jun 22 9.06pm Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by rossboss29

After reading the article on here, no we can not. Parish has been made to look silly here and he or the club need to respond or put a stop to this nonsense.

You're absolutely right. However, as I said here a couple of days ago, this is a marketing gimmick and Parish is a marketing man. He knows a marketing opportunity he can monetise when he sees one, obviously.

It's all a bit embarrassing, really. We were founded in 1905. And the sooner we get back to it, the better. Egg on your face is not a good look. It'll be interesting to see whether the club accept reality (now they've presumably done (and incurred the cost of) the machining for the new club badges) or if they double down on their misguided adventure into revisionist history.

Edited by sydtheeagle (22 Jun 2022 9.07pm)

 


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View roman eagle's Profile roman eagle Flag South London 23 Jun 22 9.23am Send a Private Message to roman eagle Add roman eagle as a friend

The way I see it is the amateur club folded in 1876 because of the pitch problems, but 20 years later the landlords (Crystal Palace Company) think they can make some money if they re-form the club, which takes another ten years to actually happen in 1905. So strictly speaking it’s not the same club. But strictly speaking the current club was started in 2010.

Many clubs and organisations are resurrected or re-formed after a break. In terms of football history both Wanderers and Clapham Rovers have been re-formed in 20th century. So we can regard CPFC1905 not as a continuation but a re-formation of CPFC1861. So in answer to the original question, on balance I think we can claim 1861 as our founding date.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Jun 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by roman eagle

The way I see it is the amateur club folded in 1876 because of the pitch problems, but 20 years later the landlords (Crystal Palace Company) think they can make some money if they re-form the club, which takes another ten years to actually happen in 1905. So strictly speaking it’s not the same club. But strictly speaking the current club was started in 2010.

Many clubs and organisations are resurrected or re-formed after a break. In terms of football history both Wanderers and Clapham Rovers have been re-formed in 20th century. So we can regard CPFC1905 not as a continuation but a re-formation of CPFC1861. So in answer to the original question, on balance I think we can claim 1861 as our founding date.

Impressive post.

I would however also suggest that the claiming of being the oldest football club will p!ss off many a BHA, Millwall, Charlton and fair few other fans these days and for that, I am pro 1861.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View palaceexile's Profile palaceexile Flag hastings 23 Jun 22 10.20am Send a Private Message to palaceexile Add palaceexile as a friend

This is a "Trigger's broom" claim - 17 new heads and 14 new handles, but it's still the same broom...

 

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