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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Nov 16 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Happy to let the lies go on. Fair enough.

I hope they at least pay you for your relentless propaganda.

The public don't want a man who still wants to, ahem, ban the bomb and negotiate with terrorists.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Nov 16 10.34pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I hope they at least pay you for your relentless propaganda.

The public don't want a man who still wants to, ahem, ban the bomb and negotiate with terrorists.

This thread is to highlight the media and their misreporting, lies and half truths. You could just say, 'oh dear what a bunch of crooks doing that's but rather than agree with the premise you change tack.

Strange how pointing something out that you find uncomfortable leads you to call it propaganda. Any reason for this?

 

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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 15 Nov 16 9.46pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

The Mail does seem to fuel hatred. Unfortunately everyone leaning to the wrong side of the moderate left hates everyone who doesn't agree with them so you've got to be a bit of a cnut if you live by that ethos.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Nov 16 10.32pm

Originally posted by johnfirewall

The Mail does seem to fuel hatred. Unfortunately everyone leaning to the wrong side of the moderate left hates everyone who doesn't agree with them so you've got to be a bit of a cnut if you live by that ethos.

Really? Can you back this up?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 10.48pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

This thread is to highlight the media and their misreporting, lies and half truths. You could just say, 'oh dear what a bunch of crooks doing that's but rather than agree with the premise you change tack.

Strange how pointing something out that you find uncomfortable leads you to call it propaganda. Any reason for this?

Your endless tub thumping party political tirades are very tedious frankly.

Such allegiance to one party is a bit sad.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Nov 16 10.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Your endless tub thumping party political tirades are very tedious frankly.

Such allegiance to one party is a bit sad.

You haven't been on here very long if you think that.

I only returned to the Labour fold when their policies were closer to my political ideals.

It's also duly noted that you played the man rather than answering the points.

Edited by nickgusset (15 Nov 2016 10.55pm)

 

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Hoof Hearted 16 Nov 16 11.06am

Originally posted by nickgusset

You haven't been on here very long if you think that.

I only returned to the Labour fold when their policies were closer to my political ideals.

It's also duly noted that you played the man rather than answering the points.

Edited by nickgusset (15 Nov 2016 10.55pm)


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Nov 16 11.11am

Very good.

What did you make of the Corbyn dancing at the cenotaph lies published by the mail and sun this week.

 

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Hoof Hearted 16 Nov 16 11.17am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Very good.

What did you make of the Corbyn dancing at the cenotaph lies published by the mail and sun this week.

I don't read the Sun or Mail, but maybe they confused Corbyn at the Cenotaph with Ed Balls dancing on Strictly?

LOL

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 16 Nov 16 11.38am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

You haven't been on here very long if you think that.

I only returned to the Labour fold when their policies were closer to my political ideals.

It's also duly noted that you played the man rather than answering the points.

Edited by nickgusset (15 Nov 2016 10.55pm)

You mean unelectable.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Nov 16 11.49am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I hope they at least pay you for your relentless propaganda.

The public don't want a man who still wants to, ahem, ban the bomb and negotiate with terrorists.

Well recently people were pretty sure that the US didn't want a racist, mysognistic arsehat to be president.... People were also pretty sure that the UK would stay in the EU.

Both were close in the end, but I think both victories came as rather a surprise to those 'who were sure what the public wanted'.

Although I think the 'ban the bomb' won't do him any good - Negotiation with 'terrorists' isn't necessarily unproductive. Sooner or later you have to deal with the issues that cause the problem, rather than the symptoms of the problem.

But certainly, he's probably right about Trident, but wrong on the nuclear option. We need really to look at a shift to a land based missile option (even if its more expensive). Trident as a solution is very much a cold war 'last strike' scenario - and lacks the kind of range of operation that would be useful to cover the middle East, and far east.

Also I'd expect to see Nuclear proliferation across the middle east. Certainly Iran and Saudi Arabia are well on the way.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Nov 16 11.54am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You mean unelectable.

If the US election has taught us anything, anyone is electable. A constantly lying egotist who's election promises were basically simple, unquantified, statements, opinion and often outright impossible or illegal, who was wracked with controversy, including sexual harassment, a fraud lawsuit and likely hasn't paid taxation in years was elected to the White House.

There are a lot of parallels between Corbyn and Trump in terms of the candidacy.

 


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