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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Nov 18 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Firstly, technology has sped up everything we do in life since pre-1970s.

To visit the US for up to 3 months requires an ESTA which can be bought online and lasts for two years. Cost I think. Not difficult.

Working in the US is trickier but so it should be. Apply online and then the only crappy bit was sitting in the US embassy for 2-3 hours to get approved which took 2 minutes. My media visa was for 5 years. Again, it's not a big deal. Does long queues at immigration put people off from visiting or working in the US? NO.

Thank you, perfect answer. It will become considerably more difficult. Not insurmountable but harder and less seamless. And don't forget, not everyone has your intellect to navigate the tricky stuff.

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 16 Nov 18 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thank you, perfect answer. It will become considerably more difficult. Not insurmountable but harder and less seamless. And don't forget, not everyone has your intellect to navigate the tricky stuff.

I disagree. Taking 5 minutes for a visa every 2 years is not difficult.

And if you can't fill in an online form or know someone to help you then it's probably not advisable to move to another country.

If there were queues at immigration it won't stop people visiting Greece or Spain for their holidays. People put up with flight delays all the time, for example.

But the great thing about the human race is it learns to adapt to changing conditions. The tourist visa fee pays for any extra computers, staff or more space to handle EU/non-EU people.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 16 Nov 18 1.27pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I remember those days, I can only assume you do not.

Visas, long passport queues and most tricky of all currency controls. You could take limited cash with you

Getting to work was difficult and mostly those I remember doing so were au pairs.

As you will know, getting to work in the US for any prolonged period is tricky. Sure it can be done but not easily. Presumably it will be like that.

and was it an inter-rail ticket?

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Nov 18 1.31pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

and was it an inter-rail ticket?

Not for me

My father got friendly with a German soldier when stationed there after the war. We took our holidays in Germany and used to drive there. Most of the time the only Brit car on the roads. Not surprising considering how complex it was but, as we were so unusual, everyone was especially helpful.

We also drove to Spain, that was soooooo painful. Lovely people, horrible bureaucracy and actually quite frightening.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 16 Nov 18 2.00pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I can’t really see the complexity, to be honest. And what’s happened over the last two years is solely because we have a government that wats to remain and doesn’t want to implement the referendum result.

The 27 have backed Barnier, not gone off message and there seems to be no wriggle room in the proposal. We should take it and be glad we're nearly out.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 16 Nov 18 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thank you, perfect answer. It will become considerably more difficult. Not insurmountable but harder and less seamless. And don't forget, not everyone has your intellect to navigate the tricky stuff.

Well I managed !!

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 16 Nov 18 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Well I managed !!

Twitter ban bender

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Nov 18 7.36pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

My view on the Tory party.

I think the behaviour of some of the senior Tories is pretty disgraceful they are putting their personal ambitions ahead of the country.

There are a number of ministers who it is believed hate this deal and yet they have not resigned. There is talk that 5 of them will meet next week and identify changes they would like in the deal (PR exercise).

Of course what is going on is they are dragging this out under the cover of "loyalty to the leader" whilst hoping that the back bencher's stab May in the back. They can then push themselves as the next leader and scrap the deal. They are very aware that he who wields the knife is never the next leader.

Meanwhile the backbenchers are playing their own little game, plenty of hate for the deal but not many letters going in, again because they are "loyal". I wouldn't mind if they were but it is all BS they want her gone.

All this adds up to dragging this affair out because when it comes to it May will not have the numbers. Normally the Tories are good at "getting rid" and we need that now otherwise it will be Christmas and May will still be kicking the can down the road.

 


One more point

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 17 Nov 18 10.59am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

My view on the Tory party.

I think the behaviour of some of the senior Tories is pretty disgraceful they are putting their personal ambitions ahead of the country.

There are a number of ministers who it is believed hate this deal and yet they have not resigned. There is talk that 5 of them will meet next week and identify changes they would like in the deal (PR exercise).

Of course what is going on is they are dragging this out under the cover of "loyalty to the leader" whilst hoping that the back bencher's stab May in the back. They can then push themselves as the next leader and scrap the deal. They are very aware that he who wields the knife is never the next leader.

Meanwhile the backbenchers are playing their own little game, plenty of hate for the deal but not many letters going in, again because they are "loyal". I wouldn't mind if they were but it is all BS they want her gone.

All this adds up to dragging this affair out because when it comes to it May will not have the numbers. Normally the Tories are good at "getting rid" and we need that now otherwise it will be Christmas and May will still be kicking the can down the road.

No one wants the seat because they all know it’s an impossibility to deliver a Brexit that does what was ‘advertised’.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Nov 18 11.08am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

In a survey seven out of ten Conservative Party member respondents oppose the draft Brexit deal.

I have had conversations with quite a few of my Conservatives chums and activists and not one is in favour of the proposed deal.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Nov 18 11.15am

Originally posted by Badger11

My view on the Tory party.

I think the behaviour of some of the senior Tories is pretty disgraceful they are putting their personal ambitions ahead of the country.

There are a number of ministers who it is believed hate this deal and yet they have not resigned. There is talk that 5 of them will meet next week and identify changes they would like in the deal (PR exercise).

Of course what is going on is they are dragging this out under the cover of "loyalty to the leader" whilst hoping that the back bencher's stab May in the back. They can then push themselves as the next leader and scrap the deal. They are very aware that he who wields the knife is never the next leader.

Meanwhile the backbenchers are playing their own little game, plenty of hate for the deal but not many letters going in, again because they are "loyal". I wouldn't mind if they were but it is all BS they want her gone.

All this adds up to dragging this affair out because when it comes to it May will not have the numbers. Normally the Tories are good at "getting rid" and we need that now otherwise it will be Christmas and May will still be kicking the can down the road.

This is what you prefer over the EU

You keep saying that our political system is better than being in the EU, then you say this.

You argue against your own point

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Nov 18 11.20am

Originally posted by Willo

In a survey seven out of ten Conservative Party member respondents oppose the draft Brexit deal.

I have had conversations with quite a few of my Conservatives chums and activists and not one is in favour of the proposed deal.

what deal do they want? that the EU would agree to? Why don't your chums unify and agree for the good of the country instead of squabbling?

 


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