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jeeagles Flag 27 Apr 19 1.28pm

Seems currently the whole debate is revolving round technicalities like "it was an advisory referendum" and "people where lied to". Fair points but for me they aren't strong enough to reverse the result of the referendum.

As a nation that's very slowly moving towards leaving the EU I think that people's vote and the EU really have to offer something substantial to reverse the decision to a leave. There needs to be a carrot. Continually beating the UK with a stick doesn't change people's feelings towards the EU.

 

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Park Road Flag 27 Apr 19 1.35pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You claim that you have spent years abroad in Asia, are widely traveled, and love diversity.....Yet you didn't even know that the holy day of the week for Muslims is Friday?

It's difficult to take your claims very seriously or view your opinions on morality seriously when you were happy for news of those Islamic rape gangs to be suppressed for your perverse idea of a greater good.....that suppression prevented action.

This goes along with your selective views on how democracy should work. Where you clearly think the public should be paying the wages of elites to ignore national referendum results......when they were promised that the result would be acted upon.

Tell you what....If Corbyn wins the next election....Lets have a vote in the parliament and see if they think they should allow Corbyn to take over or not.

If they vote no....that's fine, because they don't have to listen to the public if they don't like the result do they.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2019 12.38pm)

Yes! You'd had thought considering Islam has been around since the beginning of the 7th century that Wisbech would have taken note or more notice by now...
You'd had thought as well that he would have known that community halls double up as places of worship for all religions...

How big is that town?

Beggars belief

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You claim that you have spent years abroad in Asia, are widely traveled, and love diversity.....Yet you didn't even know that the holy day of the week for Muslims is Friday?

Of course I know but as you pointed out this place is a community centre. I don't pass it very often and thought it was Saturdays when it looked busy, and that may well still be the case as there are lots of families gathering, but it may well have been on a Friday for their prayers.

It's difficult to take your claims very seriously or view your opinions on morality seriously when you were happy for news of those Islamic rape gangs to be suppressed for your perverse idea of a greater good.....that suppression prevented action.

It seems to me that you find any views that don't chime in line with your own difficult to take seriously. This tendency is highly resonant of your hero in the WH.

This goes along with your selective views on how democracy should work. Where you clearly think the public should be paying the wages of elites to ignore national referendum results......when they were promised that the result would be acted upon.

I won't repeat all the reasons why this view is wrong. Those "elites" by the way are the people voted to represent us and if enough of us don't approve of the job they do then it is entirely in our hands to change them. Not just you and other UKIP types. Us. All of us. No promise can ever be set in stone. If circumstances change then it is the duty of our representatives not to ignore the need to act.

Tell you what....If Corbyn wins the next election....Lets have a vote in the parliament and see if they think they should allow Corbyn to take over or not.

I sincerely hope they do. Labour, just like the Tories, has become a prisoner of it's own activists and no longer represents mainstream opinion.

If they vote no....that's fine, because they don't have to listen to the public if they don't like the result do they.

If a majority of Labour members refused to follow a leader they felt unfit to lead the country then they would be doing their duty. Every leader has to command the support of those whom they lead and cannot be foisted upon them by a wider membership. Having a Party leader outside of Parliament is different but inside it must be solely for the MPs to choose. I know that isn't how it works now but it surely ought to be.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2019 12.38pm)

 


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Originally posted by Park Road

Yes! You'd had thought considering Islam has been around since the beginning of the 7th century that Wisbech would have taken note or more notice by now...
You'd had thought as well that he would have known that community halls double up as places of worship for all religions...

How big is that town?

Beggars belief

As an atheist I take very little interest in any religion or religious activity, although I am of course aware that Christians regard Sundays as their holy day and Muslims Fridays. What anyone does inside their halls is of no interest or concern to me unless and until it starts to spread outside.

 


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Park Road Flag 27 Apr 19 2.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As an atheist I take very little interest in any religion or religious activity, although I am of course aware that Christians regard Sundays as their holy day and Muslims Fridays. What anyone does inside their halls is of no interest or concern to me unless and until it starts to spread outside.

As an atheist myself - I'm the complete opposite.

You seem to have a lot of excuses to excuse your lack of knowledge.

Sometimes it's better to hold up your hands and say "you know what I do talk a lot of s***"

But as you're one of those types who loves the sound of Thier own voice/keyboard - this is something you find difficulty with.

Whether you are interested or not (your excuse), not knowing the basic religious practices/and the purpose of community halls, shows ignorance at it's highest level and then trying to defend your ignorance with half baked excuses saying that because of your atheism you've never been that interested...is initself bollox

Edited by Park Road (27 Apr 2019 2.07pm)

Edited by Park Road (27 Apr 2019 2.09pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Apr 19 2.16pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Then you would be wrong but as that's neither my fault or likely that I will convince you there isn't much more I can do to assist you.

I don't blame you Wisbech. Your attitude is a symptom of the sense of entitlement society that exists among the middle classes.
People expect to succeed, never back down and get what they 'deserve'.

 

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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

So....
We remain in the EU like you want, we then vote out MP'S out like you suggest, then.... What?

We don't vote out MPs! We vote in MPs who then use their collective judgement to decide what is our best interests. What they would decide in any given circumstance is unknown and not ours to determine.

 


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Originally posted by Park Road

As an atheist myself - I'm the complete opposite.

You seem to have a lot of excuses to excuse your lack of knowledge.

Sometimes it's better to hold up your hands and say "you know what I do talk a lot of s***"

But as you're one of those types who loves the sound of Thier own voice/keyboard - this is something you find difficulty with.

Whether you are interested or not (your excuse), not knowing the basic religious practices/and the purpose of community halls, shows ignorance at it's highest level and then trying to defend your ignorance with half baked excuses saying that because of your atheism you've never been that interested...is initself bollox

Edited by Park Road (27 Apr 2019 2.07pm)

Edited by Park Road (27 Apr 2019 2.09pm)

That's OK. I don't know you either. If you think I should be paying greater attention then you are entitled to that opinion. I wasn't and as your opinion is of no consequence to me I am not going to fret over it. I have better things to do, especially when driving down our narrow lanes. When I think about it I know Muslims attend "Friday prayers" but it isn't lodged at the forefront of my conscientiousness.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't blame you Wisbech. Your attitude is a symptom of the sense of entitlement society that exists among the middle classes.
People expect to succeed, never back down and get what they 'deserve'.

Wrong again! It's becoming a habit. As I have said elsewhere I was raised in a council house and left school at 16 so I could help provide for the family. I have no sense of entitlement at all. I have worked both hard and smart all my life to achieve anything that I have. Having had a modicum of success I am now now protecting the results as best I can. Not for me personally as my own needs are currently quite modest but for my family members who aren't so fortunate.

People who know me would readily attest that I much more willing than most to accept when I am wrong, or when I have learned something new. Not that you will take my word for that!

If you really want to consider someone who never admits they are wrong, never apologises and regards any criticism as a personal attack then study Mr Trump. The guy who thinks he is best at everything but cannot actually spell correctly. His Twitter account is a rich source of daily amusement. Wrong thread for that though. Sorry.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 27 Apr 19 5.53pm

Originally posted by Park Road

As an atheist myself - I'm the complete opposite.

You seem to have a lot of excuses to excuse your lack of knowledge.

Sometimes it's better to hold up your hands and say "you know what I do talk a lot of s***"

But as you're one of those types who loves the sound of Thier own voice/keyboard - this is something you find difficulty with.

Whether you are interested or not (your excuse), not knowing the basic religious practices/and the purpose of community halls, shows ignorance at it's highest level and then trying to defend your ignorance with half baked excuses saying that because of your atheism you've never been that interested...is initself bollox

Edited by Park Road (27 Apr 2019 2.07pm)

Edited by Park Road (27 Apr 2019 2.09pm)

that's refreshingly honest

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We don't vote out MPs! We vote in MPs who then use their collective judgement to decide what is our best interests. What they would decide in any given circumstance is unknown and not ours to determine.

*it was meant to say vote our Mps in.
The point I am saying is you want us to remain and that we should vote in our Mps but that will be to late .

In any case we voted in a party on a manefesto to leave. There is a democratic problem if the mps are going against their manefesto mid term

 

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Park Road Flag 27 Apr 19 6.23pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

that's refreshingly honest

I know what you mean, Pussay my woman stalking man...

Not sure Wisbech would agree that you agreed with me, though...

Still thanks for recognising it man...

 

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