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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 26 Apr 19 10.12pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are completely wrong. I have understood the way British democracy works for a very long time and have been a steadfast opponent of referendums for decades. Interestingly I heard a Radio 4 programme recently in which a "Leave" voter, who has since taken up studying a University course on politics, took exactly the same line as me, and said his studies had not changed his views on the EU but that the only way to handle it is via Parliament.

If we had decided to stay in but Parliament, in the light of subsequent events and their collective wisdom, decided that we needed to leave then I would support it. That's THEIR job. It isn't ours.

Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Apr 19 10.20pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.

Usually they just don't ask. But always they do what suits them best.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 10.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Well, it stopped being their job when they called a referendum. You are perfectly entitled to argue that a referendum was a bad idea but you cannot then ignore it after the event.
Would you ignore an election if UKIP won?

You know you would.

They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory.

If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Apr 19 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Their job is to hold the Government to account, make laws and represent us. We told them what to do and they haven't done it.

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests.

Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Apr 19 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory.

If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.

Hiding behind technicalities again. Do you honestly believe that the government held a referendum intending to ignore the result?
No. They thought Remain would win easily and then realised what a big mistake they made.

None of this conversation would be taking place if Remain had won.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Apr 19 4.07am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Sargon having fun in British politics.

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 27 Apr 19 7.11am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests.

Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.

I keep hearing this dribble. "Vote them out"
When are the next local elections and when is brexit?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Apr 19 8.22am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am and there is always a very big attendance there on a Saturday for their prayers etc. It is always referred to locally as "the Mosque", even though it provides other services than the strictly religious.

Cornwall is 95.7% "white"! I think that an appalling statement. The colour of an individual's skin matters not a thing. How do you classify a Japanese, who has very white skin but is ethnically from Asia. My own wife is originally from Asia, and has a slightly browner skin than me. So what? Almost all Eastern Europeans, of whom there are many in Cornwall, have white skins, but most are immigrants, some Muslim.

Do you mean Friday prayers? Having lived in a muslim country for 3 years Friday was the prayer day

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 27 Apr 19 8.25am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Just asking you to substantiate what you say. It must come from somewhere? Explain how you conclude Muslims are 'pouring' into the country

Here we go again! Funny how you never ask fellow Remainers to substantiate statements. Whenever I have, very rarely get a reply

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 27 Apr 19 8.28am

Of the 1712 (and rising) pages, how many do you think are just Pussay Patrol and Wisbech Eagle talking complete bollox?

I reckon you could condense it down to about 1200.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 27 Apr 19 8.29am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They aren't "ignoring" the referendum as any referendum is actually legally pointless in the UK. The big mistake was giving people the impression that because both major parties said they would respect it that meant they couldn't change their minds. Any referendum in the UK can only ever be advisory.

If by some very unlikely disaster UKIP ever won a majority I would weep in despair and work hard to ensure they were replaced asap but I most certainly would not ignore them.

Yes, it's clearly mentioned in the white paper

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 27 Apr 19 8.30am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP. They aren't delegates who go to Parliament to do what we have told them. They are representatives whose job it is to use their collective wisdom to reach decisions which they believe are in our best interests.

Our job is to choose who we want to represent us. That's all. If they don't meet our expectations then we choose another the next time.

That is a typical misunderstanding of the role of an MP being whipped to vote by their party, not collective wisdom.

 

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