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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 14 Sep 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have both scanned it and read a detailed summary. I can find nothing that even comes close to supporting the claims that you made.
The treaty is full of legal language so a comprehensive summary of it's implications would generally be regarded as the intelligent way to appreciate what it means.

However as you claim to have read it all let's test that. I am not claiming to. I am challenging you to prove you have because from the tone of your replies I suspect that claim is bs.

If what you claim is there then point out where. You have read it! It cannot be difficult.

If you cannot do that, or try to find an excuse as to why you won't, I will assume, with some justification, that my suspicions are correct.

Why is then other people have read the whole thing and come up with similar to what I have said. It is not hard to see that you come back with BS every time someone posts something that you do not agree with or do not understand. I think it boils down to the fact you are a very argumentative person and can only see YOUR side of any story. If you think I am going to keep answering your BS posts then think again as I have better things to do on match day than that. What I put originally was the easy way to put into words the treaty for people like you that just cannot digest big words or technical language or even bother to read something but instead dispute someone else's post.
Go and find some other remain voter and spend all day arguing a point you know NOTHING about.

 


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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Online Flag The garden of England.(not really) 14 Sep 19 11.47am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The problem is nothing of the sort. It's not "Labour Remainers" at all. It's Parliament as a whole not being satisfied that the arrangements so far negotiated on how we exit provide us all with a safe and secure way to do so.

The problem is that we now have a government which refuses to acknowledge that.

What happens beyond that is an open question. The 2016 referendum is now history. That some, like you, believe it's consequences mean we must leave the EU whatever the method or cost, is not shared by everyone. Whether you constitute a majority will probably have to be determined at some time.

Why cant we have an ignore button on here??

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Sep 19 11.56am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Why cant we have an ignore button on here??

Yup, for that particular poster I can't wait.....long overdue.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Sep 19 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

Why is then other people have read the whole thing and come up with similar to what I have said. It is not hard to see that you come back with BS every time someone posts something that you do not agree with or do not understand. I think it boils down to the fact you are a very argumentative person and can only see YOUR side of any story. If you think I am going to keep answering your BS posts then think again as I have better things to do on match day than that. What I put originally was the easy way to put into words the treaty for people like you that just cannot digest big words or technical language or even bother to read something but instead dispute someone else's post.
Go and find some other remain voter and spend all day arguing a point you know NOTHING about.

As I expected. You cannot back up your bs in anyway so you just resort to trying to insult me.

I rest my case as I most certainly have better things to do that waste my time with the likes of you.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Sep 19 12.35pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well I didn't mention the Lisbon Treaty.....As far as I'm concerned each treaty since Maastricht has seen unacceptable sovereign powers given away to foreign bodies without the mandate of the public.

The relevant point is that everything there certainly will happen if we don't leave.....What difference does it make which treaty includes what?

Like arguing over which log goes into the fire first.

You entered an exchange specifically about the Lisbon treaty and supposedly what it meant.

If that’s your prediction of how things would play out, fine, but don’t dress it up as ‘I read the Lisbon treaty and this is what it said’ because it’s conpletely disingenuous - that’s what I was calling out.

It’s some bulls*** copy and paste job from Facebook - no idea why you’re trying to defend it.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Sep 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Why cant we have an ignore button on here??

Totally unnecessary.

The choice over whether to read or not, and whether to respond or not, already lies entirely in your own hands.

I already "ignore" another poster here whose comments are always so clearly loaded with bias as to make me worry about his state of mind.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Sep 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

Why is then other people have read the whole thing and come up with similar to what I have said. It is not hard to see that you come back with BS every time someone posts something that you do not agree with or do not understand. I think it boils down to the fact you are a very argumentative person and can only see YOUR side of any story. If you think I am going to keep answering your BS posts then think again as I have better things to do on match day than that. What I put originally was the easy way to put into words the treaty for people like you that just cannot digest big words or technical language or even bother to read something but instead dispute someone else's post.
Go and find some other remain voter and spend all day arguing a point you know NOTHING about.

Of course it was.

Also, I’d bet considerable money you haven’t read the over 3000 pages of the Lisbon Treaty, so I’d suggest you should stop making that claim (no, I haven’t read it either, but then I don’t feel the need to pretend that I have).

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Online Flag The garden of England.(not really) 14 Sep 19 12.56pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Totally unnecessary.

The choice over whether to read or not, and whether to respond or not, already lies entirely in your own hands.

I already "ignore" another poster here whose comments are always so clearly loaded with bias as to make me worry about his state of mind.

at least one other poster doesnt agree with you!

Edited by the silurian (14 Sep 2019 12.57pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Sep 19 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Dr. David Starkey on the Brexit betrayal.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2019 1.14pm)

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 14 Sep 19 1.14pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

You really are quite an unpleasant person aren't you

I wonder if you are as quick to criticise someone who posts unpleasant but you agree their position?

There are quite a few on here.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 14 Sep 19 1.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I wonder if you are as quick to criticise someone who posts unpleasant but you agree their position?

There are quite a few on here.

Mmmm...ok, that's always a valid point, but have you always done that with your own political tribe?

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Mmmm...ok, that's always a valid point, but have you always done that with your own political tribe?

What is my tribe?

 

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