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 steeleye20  Croydon 17 Mar 18 9.20am |
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Even the EU vote thread gets hijacked by race. Is nothing sacred ? 925 pages and who knows where it will end (could go on for years like brexit).
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europalace  Europe 18 Mar 18 7.04am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Even the EU vote thread gets hijacked by race. Is nothing sacred ? 925 pages and who knows where it will end (could go on for years like brexit).
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Mar 18 7.53am |
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Originally posted by europalace
What a load of cobblers. No-one really knows why people voted as they did but speaking as a member of the older generation who voted Brexit a supposed hatred of foreigners had nothing to do with it
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| Lyons550 Shirley 19 Mar 18 1.32pm |
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Transition period agreed....some positive news around Brexit
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| europalace Europe 19 Mar 18 1.48pm |
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Yep, but nearly all positives for the EU yet again. More u-turns by the UK government, NI to remain in the customs union and single market. Theresa May said a couple of weeks ago that would 'never be acceptable', er, looks like it is now. Farage and his supporters must be bursting blood vessels at today's news. Well actually, only his supporters as Farage himself has used the whole 'brexit' show as a decoy to stay in the limelight lining his pockets at the expense of UK citizens and their future generations. I really didn't see the EU being in such total control of the utter mess created by those voting to leave, amazing situation.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 19 Mar 18 1.54pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
Yep, but nearly all positives for the EU yet again. More u-turns by the UK government, NI to remain in the customs union and single market. Theresa May said a couple of weeks ago that would 'never be acceptable', er, looks like it is now. Farage and his supporters must be bursting blood vessels at today's news. Well actually, only his supporters as Farage himself has used the whole 'brexit' show as a decoy to stay in the limelight lining his pockets at the expense of UK citizens and their future generations. I really didn't see the EU being in such total control of the utter mess created by those voting to leave, amazing situation.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 19 Mar 18 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
What a load of cobblers. No-one really knows why people voted as they did but speaking as a member of the older generation who voted Brexit a supposed hatred of foreigners had nothing to do with it Agreed. It was way down on my list of reasons, too.
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| europalace Europe 19 Mar 18 2.32pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
I agree, it is a big piece of progress but much more to the advantage of the EU. For the UK, in relative terms it's massive progress compared to what the 'brexiteers' demanded, which was no transition, no deal with the EU. That clearly will not happen now and definitely not suit their agenda at all. What hasn't been sorted out yet is the EU citizenship of those UK citizens who are living outside the UK and in the EU. They have a right to retain that status and I can see some huge court cases with massive litigation if that isn't resolved. I can also see a new referendum being organised during the next 20 months, maybe taking place around the Autumn of 2020. Edited by europalace (19 Mar 2018 2.33pm)
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| Lyons550 Shirley 19 Mar 18 2.58pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
I agree, it is a big piece of progress but much more to the advantage of the EU. For the UK, in relative terms it's massive progress compared to what the 'brexiteers' demanded, which was no transition, no deal with the EU. That clearly will not happen now and definitely not suit their agenda at all. What hasn't been sorted out yet is the EU citizenship of those UK citizens who are living outside the UK and in the EU. They have a right to retain that status and I can see some huge court cases with massive litigation if that isn't resolved. I can also see a new referendum being organised during the next 20 months, maybe taking place around the Autumn of 2020. Edited by europalace (19 Mar 2018 2.33pm) It all depends on what your perception of 'advantage' is...the fact we're leaving the EU (However it happens) would be considered an advantage by those that voted for it...but then again I appreciate you may have a skewed stance on the matter not residing here and clearly being subject to EU centric media etc etc...as always we'll make the best of what we have, the key is knowing there is now some certainty and timescales...that's by in large the biggest factor for business, as they like to KNOW what is planned so they can prepare for it...regardless of what it is that is planned.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 19 Mar 18 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
I agree, it is a big piece of progress but much more to the advantage of the EU. For the UK, in relative terms it's massive progress compared to what the 'brexiteers' demanded, which was no transition, no deal with the EU. That clearly will not happen now and definitely not suit their agenda at all. What hasn't been sorted out yet is the EU citizenship of those UK citizens who are living outside the UK and in the EU. They have a right to retain that status and I can see some huge court cases with massive litigation if that isn't resolved. I can also see a new referendum being organised during the next 20 months, maybe taking place around the Autumn of 2020. Edited by europalace (19 Mar 2018 2.33pm)
Yes it has
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| europalace Europe 19 Mar 18 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
Yes it has Yes, I understand that statement, for example if a UK citizen is living in France they can continue living there with the same rights etc. Can that citizen then move to Germany, Netherlands or any other EU country and enjoy the same rights as any other EU citizen now that the UK citizen isn't an EU citizen anymore? Can that UK citizen in France enjoy the freedom of movement within the EU in the same way as all other EU citizens? Currently that UK citizen in France has freedom of movement and work rights across the EU, will they retain that after the UK leaves the EU? Edited by europalace (19 Mar 2018 3.38pm)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 19 Mar 18 3.36pm |
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What I am concerned with, as are many people, is how we can retain our european citizenship. The idea of 'associate' membership retaining our benefits and culture is attractive so hopefully there will be something for those of us who want it.
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