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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 24 Mar 18 12.55am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

The argument for Brexit was so the UK could have free trade agreements and friendships with the whole of the world (including Europe) so the general population and the taxpayer (in this case with the passports) can save money. I'm perfectly fine with a French firm printing the passports if it's cheaper for taxpayer.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 24 Mar 18 3.39am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The argument for Brexit was so the UK could have free trade agreements and friendships with the whole of the world (including Europe) so the general population and the taxpayer (in this case with the passports) can save money. I'm perfectly fine with a French firm printing the passports if it's cheaper for taxpayer.

Maybe technically it was the best bid too and I've seen no suggestion that the process won't happen outside the UK.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 24 Mar 18 4.21am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Brexiteers clutching at straws.

Would french passports be made outside France?

Non.

The PM in Brussels as usual trying to protect steel post-brexit this time.

In the EU we simply don't have that problem, out we do.

 

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Would a passport made in France be an import? We could tax it then as well. Good deal and some tax back. Quids in!

 

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A complete media inspired story of no real relevance.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 24 Mar 18 9.19pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A complete media inspired story of no real relevance.

I agree, it is a bit like the autoroute tag comes from the UK

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

I am a pro remain.

However I would like passpprts to be made here charity begins at home.

Outsourcing is a tory ideal to avoid any responsibility for just about anything.


This is simply a business decision...their contract negotiator has royally f***ed up and as a result lost them the contract. That's the real world for you...nothing should be handed to anyone on a plate....other than fondant fancies that is!

 


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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 29 Mar 18 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Still no deal/detail on customs, on services, on air travel, on fisheries, on agriculture, on migration post Brexit, on trade deals (can't start negotiating the ones we're losing let alone new ones until 2019).

Didn't have to be like this. Theresa bodged it by enacting article 50 before doing any prep. Presented the EU with an open goal. She's done an appalling job with Brexit and just about everything else.

seems like more movement...from the BBC

"The EU - for example - has agreed that Britain will be able to negotiate and sign (if not implement) free trade deals with non-EU countries whilst still effectively a member of the single market during the implementation period.

And despite many protestations that there would be no such thing as a "bespoke" free trade deal for the UK, Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, has made it clear that a different type of deal is exactly what is on offer."

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

seems like more movement...from the BBC

"The EU - for example - has agreed that Britain will be able to negotiate and sign (if not implement) free trade deals with non-EU countries whilst still effectively a member of the single market during the implementation period.

And despite many protestations that there would be no such thing as a "bespoke" free trade deal for the UK, Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, has made it clear that a different type of deal is exactly what is on offer."

In future on brexit we will just ask the BBC........

 

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One year to go till Brexit....transitional or not.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

One year to go till Brexit....transitional or not.

"Free at last free at last thank god almighty free at last."

Actually the next important date is the October deadline for the deal. That is when I will judge PM May. I never wanted a transition or to pay the EU 40bn but if we get a good deal it is a price worth paying. In the meantime the Tories need to start spelling out what the post Brexit world looks like. We have had hints about more money for the NHS I would like to see commitments e.g.

- £365mm per week for the NHS

- Free travel access for EU citizens with reciprocal arrangements, no visas. However a new law banning immigrants from claiming benefits until they have paid 5 years of tax. (Exception for refugees). In other words if coffee shops need Polish workers they will have to offer a decent salary as the worker cannot claim housing benefit.

- Pass control of fishing to the Scottish parliament (for Scottish waters)

- New deal for farmers to replace CAP. The deal should be aimed at the smaller farmers and environmental friendly policies.

- More money for training our youngsters. Currently lazy cheapskate employers import talent from the EU keeping our wages down. Time to tell them to start investing in our own people.

Anyway just a few ideas.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 30 Mar 18 9.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

"Free at last free at last thank god almighty free at last."

Actually the next important date is the October deadline for the deal. That is when I will judge PM May. I never wanted a transition or to pay the EU 40bn but if we get a good deal it is a price worth paying. In the meantime the Tories need to start spelling out what the post Brexit world looks like. We have had hints about more money for the NHS I would like to see commitments e.g.

- £365mm per week for the NHS

- Free travel access for EU citizens with reciprocal arrangements, no visas. However a new law banning immigrants from claiming benefits until they have paid 5 years of tax. (Exception for refugees). In other words if coffee shops need Polish workers they will have to offer a decent salary as the worker cannot claim housing benefit.

- Pass control of fishing to the Scottish parliament (for Scottish waters)

- New deal for farmers to replace CAP. The deal should be aimed at the smaller farmers and environmental friendly policies.

- More money for training our youngsters. Currently lazy cheapskate employers import talent from the EU keeping our wages down. Time to tell them to start investing in our own people.

Anyway just a few ideas.

More money for the ever expanding NHS? Yeah, I'd increase it. Does this never ending increase make long term sense? Not really.

We need to spend more of our GDP on our military. In real terms we spend a bit under two percent on actual military stuff like weapons and wages....compared to Russia's over five percent.....And Russia is an economy with smaller GDP than us.

 


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