He so so so isn't close to world class.

How does he get into the squad when he can barely string 3-4 games along without an injury? I've seen guys playing 5 a side who are less selfish than him and they actually score goals!!

Someone has said it already but we need a manager who comes in, wipes the slate clean and picks players that actually have the desire to play and do well - almost a Mike Bassett situation

Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan

They give their fees away. Maybe they need to go back to being the greedy so-and-sos that they are in order to perform?

Optimistic as ever

I'm really struggling to express my disappointment in this latest England outfit. It is not a team; the defense is unsound and over-plays ,the attack is sterile and predictable;and the midfield is invisible.
Most good teams are based on a strong defense and the accent on going forward should be harnessed.Rose had a reasonable game but the rest should be "rested" until they could convince the manager via their league performances that they can defend to international standards.The attack has to be far more aggressive and I was pleased that Townsend showed this trait when he was given the chance.
How this poor side could top the division is beyond me!

This group, as with the one for the Euros will see the very same tactics of Park the Bus being used by each and every opponent.

If we had an Italy or Holland then at least two games would be end to end (the on the break tactic would be unnecesary for those opponents) and we would have the space to do more, however each game we have played recently in the last two years is exactly the same (Park the Bus) and we play one player up front with two wide guys (in Walcott and Lingaard currently) and our Centre Forward keeps on dropping off into the midfield and seemingly laying it off to Stones or Cahill.

On a Saturday afternoon - name one Premier League Team that does that? Even against West Brom - who does that?

Last season, only Man Utd played as slowly as England do today, why don't we play like we do every Premier League match - especially against the Park the Bus merchants?

Each side now plays one up top, but he plays the whole game up top - he doesn't drop off (like Sturridge).

There is then either 5 across the middle or they play more of a 4-3-3.

I am not sure what we played yesterday (4 5 1 I think more than a 4 3 3), but can anyone think of any team in the Premier League that plays like England? No wonder the players suffer as it is a completely different system - Tottenham's players do not play like that ever unless they are playing for England.

And not to get confused with Long Ball Football, if it is not working then change it. Benteke for us has changed everything - put a good ball into the box and their defence is in trouble. Our Centre forward had dropped so far off that there was no one to cross it to other than midgets like Walcott and Lingard.

Even when Kane is available you can't just cross it in there - however if you had (God help me for saying this) a Carroll or a Crouch, then at least - having failed with the possession concept we could at least try something else.

The tactics that we should be using should be the tactics every Premier League Team uses against West Brom in this group - all the players know the drill, they play it often and we shouldn't be afraid to change the system when it is failing nor should we continue to play as though we might concede at any second.

Edited by Azerbaijan Eagle (12 Oct 2016 1.39pm)

You lot think England are bad?.....

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How much does Strachan not want that job any more. It's a bit embarrassing. Just quit man.

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show