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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 20 May 19 6.33pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

Ot quite the new Stand, but a modification for next season could be safe standing, similar to what Wolves are planning
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Edited by Bearcage (14 May 2019 11.01pm)

There are no plans to grant any club permission to install a safe standing section. Anywhere in England

 

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Originally posted by est1905

There are no plans to grant any club permission to install a safe standing section. Anywhere in England

The Taylor Report killed off any chance for terraces at English football grounds. It was a political trade off, all seaters for the government killing off a national football ID card scheme.

 


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Originally posted by est1905

There are no plans to grant any club permission to install a safe standing section. Anywhere in England

You don't need permission to do what Wolves are doing. It is safe standing by proxy and a great move.

Similarly it is perfectly legal to allow your fans to stand at matches, as Palace do. Different rules at different grounds, presumably in consultation with local authorities.

 

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Originally posted by est1905

There are no plans to grant any club permission to install a safe standing section. Anywhere in England

That is not entirely true.

Shrewsbury Town have installed and are allowed to use safe standing.

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Originally posted by nhp61

That is not entirely true.

Shrewsbury Town have installed and are allowed to use safe standing.

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They are not in top divisions so are not covered by all seater rules.

As people have said there is a requirement to provide seats and a view that people do not have to use them. The later has never been questioned in court however if a fatal incident were to occur and people were standing, it is nearly certain corporate manslaughter charges would be faced by club and officials/directors

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 May 19 9.31pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

That is not entirely true.

Shrewsbury Town have installed and are allowed to use safe standing.

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What I have never understood about Shrewsbury is why they changed the name of the ground from 'Gay Meadow' to 'The meadow'. Also do they still have the guy with the coracle?

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

What I have never understood about Shrewsbury is why they changed the name of the ground from 'Gay Meadow' to 'The meadow'. Also do they still have the guy with the coracle?

Itís nowhere near the old ground so no they donít still have the guy with the coracle.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag Chelsea 21 May 19 4.57am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

Ot quite the new Stand, but a modification for next season could be safe standing, similar to what Wolves are planning
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Edited by Bearcage (14 May 2019 11.01pm)

Why even bother? Half the Homesdale lower spend the whole match standing anyway. The end block in th Arthur seems to have adopted the same policy. So if you want to stand just go there. In block X we do a mixture. Stand when Wilf gets the ball on the wing, corners,free kicks etc. But we donít stand all match. Canít see the point of safe standing. Just go back to terracing with plenty of crush barriers if I was in charge. That way you would get more in too.

 

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Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Why even bother? Half the Homesdale lower spend the whole match standing anyway. The end block in th Arthur seems to have adopted the same policy. So if you want to stand just go there. In block X we do a mixture. Stand when Wilf gets the ball on the wing, corners,free kicks etc. But we donít stand all match. Canít see the point of safe standing. Just go back to terracing with plenty of crush barriers if I was in charge. That way you would get more in too.

It does seem like rail seating is just a gimmick if people are going to stand in those sections anyway.

You wouldn't be able to get more people in if you revert back to "old style" terraces with crash barriers. The number of entrances, toilets, bars and fire exits, and the overall size of the concourse are all designed for a specific number of people which can't increase without significant improvements.

 

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Originally posted by est1905

There are no plans to grant any club permission to install a safe standing section. Anywhere in England

The new Spurs stadium has it!

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

The new Spurs stadium has it!

Installing it is not the same as being able to use it. It may well be a good move if legislation changes, especially as it has been incorporated into a new stadium. On the other hand, as we can't afford the proverbial pot to micturate in, it would be flagrant extravagance to spend money on something that, as it stands, wouldn't give us an additional red cent in income.

 


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Originally posted by bexleydave

Installing it is not the same as being able to use it. It may well be a good move if legislation changes, especially as it has been incorporated into a new stadium. On the other hand, as we can't afford the proverbial pot to micturate in, it would be flagrant extravagance to spend money on something that, as it stands, wouldn't give us an additional red cent in income.


Exactly, Tottenham have future proofed their new stadium. I thought the standing could be used in European comps.
Anyway, standing or sitting, you can only have the same amount of people in, so really only do it if you can afford it, or if you are replacing seats anyway.

 


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