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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 03 Apr 17 1.44pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by gerry theagle

Oh and I forgot the two body searches.

Yeah, but that's only because you went round twice before they recognised you and made you go in

 

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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag croydon 03 Apr 17 1.51pm Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Its largely irresponsible, given the risks and lack of safety involved in both, but irresponsible is also fun.

There are genuine issues with flares (not least to do with the temperature they burn at, and the smoke they give off), in a confined space of a crowd, in the hands of someone with no professional training in how to properly handle such things (or the kind of chemical used in the flare / smoke bomb).

Then there is the noise of the bangers, which of course as a surprise can have 'unintended' effects on crowd members beyond atmospheric (not to mention the risks associated with smuggling in the devices in the first place).

Probably the best option, going forwards, really would be for the FA to allow clubs to utilise 'official smoke displays' to some extent for home and away fans in advance.

which then deflects from the entire 'want/need' for doing it. Who lets them off? when? what training will they get? do they get a safety certificate etc etc etc.

It ain't gonna happen and they've been banned for a reason.

Just make sure you get to the Arsenal game early doors, i'd expect bloody long queues and alot of searches.

 


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View Michaelawt85's Profile Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 03 Apr 17 1.54pm Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by paperhat

which then deflects from the entire 'want/need' for doing it. Who lets them off? when? what training will they get? do they get a safety certificate etc etc etc.

It ain't gonna happen and they've been banned for a reason.

Just make sure you get to the Arsenal game early doors, i'd expect bloody long queues and alot of searches.

At last the perk of being a woman. Have to go to the female stewards and the que is always short on that bit

 


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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 03 Apr 17 3.03pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

I can see more checks and tighter rules at Selhurst after our club gets a heavy fine and the clubs name dragged through the press and media. Makes us look like proper idiots and its all down to a few irresponsible people who think its fun to flout the rules and smash up toilets when all it does is give the club a bad name. In fact it ruined the wonderful win we had at Chelsea. What a bunch of prize immature pr@ts!

 


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View CJr94's Profile CJr94 Flag Holmesdale Road 03 Apr 17 3.29pm Send a Private Message to CJr94 Add CJr94 as a friend

Doubt the long queues thing. You've got to be an idiot to do it in your own ground?

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 03 Apr 17 3.35pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

I was sitting elsewhere but thought it was bloody stupid to let the flares off and especially the bangers.
I don't see the need as those that sit/stand there are good enough without them.
I suspect there will be a comeback on this from the Premier League.

 

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View beer man's Profile beer man Flag Kent 03 Apr 17 4.46pm Send a Private Message to beer man Add beer man as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I can see more checks and tighter rules at Selhurst after our club gets a heavy fine and the clubs name dragged through the press and media. Makes us look like proper idiots and its all down to a few irresponsible people who think its fun to flout the rules and smash up toilets when all it does is give the club a bad name. In fact it ruined the wonderful win we had at Chelsea. What a bunch of prize immature pr@ts!

I agree 100%. And I'm 24 by the way, before we hear that opposition to rank stupidity is age-related. We're going to be fined and subject to even more scrutiny home and away; well done to those who thought that was a good idea. Do we really want to be like Millwall and be herded into grounds and away again with a massive police presence?

 

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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 03 Apr 17 5.10pm Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

I can see more checks and tighter rules at Selhurst after our club gets a heavy fine and the clubs name dragged through the press and media. Makes us look like proper idiots and its all down to a few irresponsible people who think its fun to flout the rules and smash up toilets when all it does is give the club a bad name. In fact it ruined the wonderful win we had at Chelsea. What a bunch of prize immature pr@ts!

Anyone who lets this side-issue ruin their enjoyment of beating the runaway league leaders on their own patch and winning 4 games on the trot needs to have a word with themselves and think about who is the actual "prize immature prat".

 


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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 03 Apr 17 6.30pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

I would say the guy in full view of the cameras "proudly" holding a red flare and waving it about like he was begging to be banned.

 

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View daven's Profile daven Flag Hailsham 03 Apr 17 6.53pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

As a non season ticket holder who just goes occasionally,I was surprised how superficial the search was. I was searched by a female which although was pleasant,it was a total waste of time.Not sure what the legal position is, but when I worked at Gatwick passenger search men could only search men,and the same with women (unfortunately).

 

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View susmik's Profile susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 03 Apr 17 7.11pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Seth

Anyone who lets this side-issue ruin their enjoyment of beating the runaway league leaders on their own patch and winning 4 games on the trot needs to have a word with themselves and think about who is the actual "prize immature prat".

This side issue as you call it will surely be in Steve Parish's mind when he gets the bill for the damage and the hefty fine for the prize immature prats that let of flares and did damage in Chelsea's stadium. Plus the bad press we are going to get when the FA gets going and charges us... You need to think before posting such crap yourself!

 


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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 03 Apr 17 7.17pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Also if this "side issue" becomes a regular occurence we'll end up watching our football through a fence,and the proposals for safe standing will be scrapped.

 

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