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 paperhat  croydon 04 Apr 17 10.20am |
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at least theres no danger involved.
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| Dan1994 Wallington 04 Apr 17 10.53am |
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"John Hill was standing next to his father, also John, 67, when he was hit at the end of the Wales-Romania game in Cardiff in November 1993." He was hit by a marine flare. I don't think anyone here is condoning the use of what is basically a firework being aimed at people. Smoke bombs and the flare used at Stamford Bridge on Saturday aren't a marine flare. Flares I can understand the concern, but smoke bombs I don't see the issue. But yes, let's use misinformation and fear mongering, rather than having an actual discussion using facts. Edited by Dan1994 (04 Apr 2017 10.54am)
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Park Road  04 Apr 17 11.09am |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
I have a life,but it doesn't include bringing fireworks with me to a football match,or vandalising an opponent's ground. Call me old fashioned but I go to watch the football and have scream and shout when necessary. I hope you realize screaming and shouting could burst someone's eardrums frighten children and spoil other fans match day experience. I certainly don't want to go back to the 70's and 80's with screaming fans stuck behind fences scaring the hell out of me. Oh no sir defiantly no Edited by Park Road (04 Apr 2017 11.10am)
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| bicycle repair man 04 Apr 17 11.12am |
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Originally posted by Park Road
I hope you realize screaming and shouting could burst someone's eardrums frighten children and spoil other fans match day experience. I certainly don't want to go back to the 70's and 80's with screaming fans stuck behind fences scaring the hell out of me. Oh no sir defiantly no Edited by Park Road (04 Apr 2017 11.10am) Keep taking the tablets.
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| Park Road 04 Apr 17 11.16am |
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Originally posted by bicycle repair man
Keep taking the tablets.
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will do thanks| paperhat croydon 04 Apr 17 11.21am |
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Originally posted by Dan1994
"John Hill was standing next to his father, also John, 67, when he was hit at the end of the Wales-Romania game in Cardiff in November 1993." He was hit by a marine flare. I don't think anyone here is condoning the use of what is basically a firework being aimed at people. Smoke bombs and the flare used at Stamford Bridge on Saturday aren't a marine flare. Flares I can understand the concern, but smoke bombs I don't see the issue. But yes, let's use misinformation and fear mongering, rather than having an actual discussion using facts. Edited by Dan1994 (04 Apr 2017 10.54am) ok, a discussion using facts. people smuggled in flares and fireworks which factually, is against the law. YOU choose to look at it as fun and should be allowable. The fact is that it isn't allowable, however much 'fun' it may be. Whoever it was, HF or no HF is a tool and it should be them that the fans look to when they get a bit strong-armed by the stewards/police at the next away match, rather than whining about heavy handed coppers and stewards.
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| bicycle repair man 04 Apr 17 11.35am |
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It's always the majority who suffer for the idiocy of the few.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 17 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Dan1994
"John Hill was standing next to his father, also John, 67, when he was hit at the end of the Wales-Romania game in Cardiff in November 1993." He was hit by a marine flare. I don't think anyone here is condoning the use of what is basically a firework being aimed at people. Smoke bombs and the flare used at Stamford Bridge on Saturday aren't a marine flare. Flares I can understand the concern, but smoke bombs I don't see the issue. But yes, let's use misinformation and fear mongering, rather than having an actual discussion using facts. Edited by Dan1994 (04 Apr 2017 10.54am) I'm assuming a home made smoke bomb, which tend to be similar to flares? We used to make these for paintball games, and they burn pretty hot. Also if you don't add a moderation chemical or sufficient moderator, its effectively an explosive. Even commercially available ones are classed as a pyrotechnic, because they are effectively a explosive reaction, which is controlled by the moderating chemical slowing the oxidiser and the accelerant.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 17 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Park Road
I hope you realize screaming and shouting could burst someone's eardrums frighten children and spoil other fans match day experience. I certainly don't want to go back to the 70's and 80's with screaming fans stuck behind fences scaring the hell out of me. Oh no sir defiantly no Edited by Park Road (04 Apr 2017 11.10am) Shouting at a football match is a pretty reasonable expectation and a continual factor. Smoke bombs, bangers aren't. Social contract, people expect certain things at a sporting event. Its also continual, as in not a surprise. Now whether we should is another matter.
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 Michaelawt85 Bexley 04 Apr 17 11.48am |
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No one made a song and dance about it when Everton threw one on the pitch when they last played and beat us.
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| tangerineeagle cleveleys,lancs 04 Apr 17 11.51am |
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how old are these pillocks,do we forgive them for their youth,or is it a lack of brain power,might find out one day.
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| Dan1994 Wallington 04 Apr 17 11.53am |
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Originally posted by paperhat
ok, a discussion using facts. people smuggled in flares and fireworks which factually, is against the law. YOU choose to look at it as fun and should be allowable. The fact is that it isn't allowable, however much 'fun' it may be. Whoever it was, HF or no HF is a tool and it should be them that the fans look to when they get a bit strong-armed by the stewards/police at the next away match, rather than whining about heavy handed coppers and stewards. See that I completely agree with, as the law stays as it is, I don't want to see us sanctioned by the FA or the police. What other people are saying is that that shouldn't be the law which is a major debate in football at the moment.
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