Great Academy or a neglected one
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In | RSS Feed
 Dan89  Se25 27 Jun 17 11.10am |
  |
|---|---|
|
There's a lot of talk that , FDB appointment is great news for the academy products. However are the likes of Kai Kai good enough or is that there not being given an opportunity. While previous managers have joined the club, with survival as their only mission. These players have hardly flourished in the U23 game or when out on loan in the football league. Im all for giving youth a chance but they have to be good enough. Didn't the academy get graded as category B. How can we improve this. Is Gary Issot the problem. What's your thoughts on the academy and why has it been 7 to 8 years. Since Zaha burst onto he scene. Edited by Dan89 (27 Jun 2017 11.26am)
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
black eagle.  south croydon. 27 Jun 17 11.21am |
|
|---|---|
|
I think it's the way football is going with academy's being neglected. Chelsea have lots of their academy players loaned out and hardly bring any of them through. I like the way Frank is going to address this. The likes of Joniesta and Kai Kai are good enough and will hopefully get their chance under FDB.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jun 17 11.23am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by black eagle.
I think it's the way football is going with academy's being neglected. Chelsea have lots of their academy players loaned out and hardly bring any of them through. I like the way Frank is going to address this. The likes of Joniesta and Kai Kai are good enough and will hopefully get their chance under FDB. Not so sure that 'Williams' will ever be effective in the PL.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Dan89 Se25 27 Jun 17 11.25am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by black eagle.
I think it's the way football is going with academy's being neglected. Chelsea have lots of their academy players loaned out and hardly bring any of them through. I like the way Frank is going to address this. The likes of Joniesta and Kai Kai are good enough and will hopefully get their chance under FDB. Hope your right because when ever I've seen Williams. I personally think he's too lightweight. Let's remember he's played 12 prem games. Mostly subs. Yes he's injury prone but I feel that it would be better for his career to leave, for a championship club. (I know he signed a new deal)
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
kenbarr  Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 27 Jun 17 11.26am |
 |
|---|---|
|
I think the impact FdB will make on the academy will be in its organization and recruitment. We will probably not see the results for a number of years. As long as survival in the Prem is Job #1 we will have to rely on the transfer market. As a start, let's see what Williams, KaiKai and Boateng bring to the table and go from there.
Divorced...And LOVING it! |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post | Board Moderator |
|
| Dan89 Se25 27 Jun 17 11.36am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by kenbarr
I think the impact FdB will make on the academy will be in its organization and recruitment. We will probably not see the results for a number of years. As long as survival in the Prem is Job #1 we will have to rely on the transfer market. As a start, let's see what Williams, KaiKai and Boateng bring to the table and go from there. Are the likes of Kai Kai and boateng good enough. There no wilfried Zaha or Clyne. Does our whole academy set up. Need a restructuring. Maybe bring in some new youth coaches. Gary Issot been at palace for years. Is he the problem.
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| HerneBayPalace Herne Bay 27 Jun 17 11.42am |
|
|---|---|
|
De Boer coming in will not suddenly make our youth players world beaters. A few people have already said that it will take a few years to develop anyone, which is correct. We haven't been able to give them a chance due to being in and around the bottom nearly every season and tried and trusted players were used with experienced managers. What he will bring is a new understanding of the game which may mean the current U23 team and below may well pick up on this and develop their 'football brain'. This could have an impact on their thought process and therefore seemingly improve their ability whilst on the pitch. He can be the missing link from apply the ability into using it in the correct situations. I personally couldn't understand why any of our youth team left backs were not in with a shout over Martin Kelly under Pardew, that was an opportunity as it couldn't have got much worse. Time will tell but I think he will be using the transfer market for his first season or if we are safe by April he may think about it.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| HerneBayPalace Herne Bay 27 Jun 17 11.43am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by HerneBayPalace
De Boer coming in will not suddenly make our youth players world beaters. A few people have already said that it will take a few years to develop anyone, which is correct. We haven't been able to give them a chance due to being in and around the bottom nearly every season and tried and trusted players were used with experienced managers. What he will bring is a new understanding of the game which may mean the current U23 team and below may well pick up on this and develop their 'football brain'. This could have an impact on their thought process and therefore seemingly improve their ability whilst on the pitch. He can be the missing link from applying the ability into using it in the correct situations. I personally couldn't understand why any of our youth team left backs were not in with a shout over Martin Kelly under Pardew, that was an opportunity as it couldn't have got much worse. Time will tell but I think he will be using the transfer market for his first season or if we are safe by April he may think about it.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 27 Jun 17 11.44am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by kenbarr
I think the impact FdB will make on the academy will be in its organization and recruitment. We will probably not see the results for a number of years. As long as survival in the Prem is Job #1 we will have to rely on the transfer market. As a start, let's see what Williams, KaiKai and Boateng bring to the table and go from there. I agree Ken,however previous management have deemed the three lads you name not good enough. Edited by alaneagle1 (27 Jun 2017 11.45am)
Palace 13th 2017/18. |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Dan89 Se25 27 Jun 17 11.44am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by HerneBayPalace
Originally posted by HerneBayPalace
De Boer coming in will not suddenly make our youth players world beaters. A few people have already said that it will take a few years to develop anyone, which is correct. We haven't been able to give them a chance due to being in and around the bottom nearly every season and tried and trusted players were used with experienced managers. What he will bring is a new understanding of the game which may mean the current U23 team and below may well pick up on this and develop their 'football brain'. This could have an impact on their thought process and therefore seemingly improve their ability whilst on the pitch. He can be the missing link from applying the ability into using it in the correct situations. I personally couldn't understand why any of our youth team left backs were not in with a shout over Martin Kelly under Pardew, that was an opportunity as it couldn't have got much worse. Time will tell but I think he will be using the transfer market for his first season or if we are safe by April he may think about it. You say that again lol
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| manosdedios 27 Jun 17 11.48am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Dan89
Are the likes of Kai Kai and boateng good enough. There no wilfried Zaha or Clyne. Does our whole academy set up. Need a restructuring. Maybe bring in some new youth coaches. Gary Issot been at palace for years. Is he the problem. When Clyne was coming through the academy he was considered as not good enough and was behind Michael Abnett (currently plying his trade at Merstham) in the pecking order. Give the lads a chance to see what they can do.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Dan89 Se25 27 Jun 17 11.54am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by manosdedios
When Clyne was coming through the academy he was considered as not good enough and was behind Michael Abnett (currently plying his trade at Merstham) in the pecking order. Give the lads a chance to see what they can do. They need to earn that chance. Take Williams for example. He had numerous pre season with palace to impress. With most managers opting out of place him in the 25 man squad. With the financial reward to stay in this league. You have to be assured that they can cope. With Clyne, we was in the championship. Also as someone mentioned above that when we went through a left back crisis. No U23 left back was given a chance. The u23 haven't been very successful this year.
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / Register
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2023 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.