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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 29 Jun 17 11.04am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

My advice, is to learn other skills along side it as well. Just being able to be a SQL developer won't serve you too well in the meantime. Try to get experience in development planning, integration management, technical lead etc as well.

IT massively rewards specialist technical skills, but usually only for about 5-10 years, and by that time the day rates slump down to a reasonable average (400 a day isn't all that much as IT day rates go, I've worked with Project Management Officers who earn that).

The SQL bubble won't last. It contracting market has seen many of these patterns (when I started in IT web developers were king, now its a really competitive field with most of the people who were 'just capable' having been long since pushed out of the market).

The trick to IT is to develop non-technical skills sets if you want it to last - because IT has always lacked people without pure IT skills.

Things like Configuration Management, Change Management, Technical Writing, Release Management, Development and Integration Manager, Defect Management, Project Management, Technical Officer etc have a longer career span for a contractor, and most techie contractors long term end up moving into these kind of areas.


I'm doing just that, also doing qualifications on DBA, Systems Architecture as well as already being qualified in PRINCE2 and AGILE for Project management..will...def look at the other elements when I've ploughed through that lot though....ta

Also agree with the bit in BOLD...as I said that was just an Avg for a basic SQL developer.....still its more than I get now and will allow me to balance work with property development...which is my goal.

Edited by Lyons550 (29 Jun 2017 11.06am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jun 17 11.26am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by mezzer

And teaching is not immune. May cause a bit of a stir for the government that brings it in, mind.

Explain?

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 29 Jun 17 12.02pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

What my business does can never be replaced by robots. Ha! f*** you robots.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (29 Jun 2017 10.50am)

What's that?

 


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View coulsdoneagle's Profile coulsdoneagle Flag London 29 Jun 17 12.43pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

It is inevitable and the people that will complain and try and stop it are no different to those smashing the spinning Jenny. It's a matter of time, we have a service based economy and we live in a country with incredibly poor productivity and a lack of investment in STEM. We really need to start prepping in this country for the robot revolution and have high skill high wage jobs in place for the next generation to go in to.

Also agree with Jamie regarding, do what you like and are good at and if you excel the money will follow.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jun 17 12.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

It is inevitable and the people that will complain and try and stop it are no different to those smashing the spinning Jenny. It's a matter of time, we have a service based economy and we live in a country with incredibly poor productivity and a lack of investment in STEM. We really need to start prepping in this country for the robot revolution and have high skill high wage jobs in place for the next generation to go in to.

Also agree with Jamie regarding, do what you like and are good at and if you excel the money will follow.

Pretty much agree.

I think compared to most countries we are preparing better than most.

I fear for the poorest countries with automation.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 29 Jun 17 12.57pm

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

What my business does can never be replaced by robots. Ha! f*** you robots.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (29 Jun 2017 10.50am)

Yeah, and that's what Blade Runners said...

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 29 Jun 17 12.59pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Pretty much agree.

I think compared to most countries we are preparing better than most.

I fear for the poorest countries with automation.

I think the problem has always been, what do the 'rest of us do'. Automation in theory should be used to produce a more leisured life, but in reality its been used to generate great profits for a few, and wage 'slavery' and benefit dependency for the rest.

 


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Zuckerberg suggests that a Universal basic income may be necessary with the rise in automation.

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 29 Jun 17 2.07pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

It is an interesting subject. In finance people have been discussing this for some time but as yet the take up is small. The problem being is the age of the decision makers. They are all, a bit like myself c 50 and thinking I have another decade or so left. So letís put this off and let the next generation deal with it. So the take up will be a lot slower than people think.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 29 Jun 17 2.21pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think the problem has always been, what do the 'rest of us do'. Automation in theory should be used to produce a more leisured life, but in reality its been used to generate great profits for a few, and wage 'slavery' and benefit dependency for the rest.

I truly hope that our leaders try to use it for the greater good. Ultimately any other approach isn't going to end well.

It's affect upon the third world could be beneficial or a complete disaster depending upon this aspect.

 


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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

It is an interesting subject. In finance people have been discussing this for some time but as yet the take up is small. The problem being is the age of the decision makers. They are all, a bit like myself c 50 and thinking I have another decade or so left. So letís put this off and let the next generation deal with it. So the take up will be a lot slower than people think.

Those decision makers are always going to be fifty though.

Once the technology has been applied properly and shown to be making a profit....It's going to be an avalanche.

 


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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Zuckerberg suggests that a Universal basic income may be necessary with the rise in automation.

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They really would need to build a wall then.

Interesting times ahead....We are either lucky to have been born now....or we were born a generation too early.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2017 2.26pm)

 


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