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Part Time James 19 Jul 17 11.49am | |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Would there be a similar outcry if the producers of Babestation decided to switch to a male only cast? I'd be well up for lying on a bed all evening with a bit of bollock hanging out taking calls from randy ladies. Sadly most my phone calls are about accidents that weren't my fault.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 17 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
So 1 in 8. The least they could do seeing as we were a major player in rescuing their countries from the Germans and Japanese.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 17 12.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The least they could do seeing as we were a major player in rescuing their countries from the Germans and Japanese. Well except for Poland and New Zealand... Neither of which were rescued by the British in any significant way.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 17 1.05pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well except for Poland and New Zealand... Neither of which were rescued by the British in any significant way. I think that is a rather short sighted observation. New Zealand might have fallen to the Germans or Japanese had the war gone on longer and Poland was liberated from the Nazis by Russia who would not have been on the offensive without allied involvement.
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Ray in Houston Houston 19 Jul 17 3.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So 'racism' is determined by your representation on TV? I see. So it's not OK for Black people to want to see Black actors in films over white actors if the ratio of Black actors is in line with the population? It's no different if a black actor is preferred over another only because he/she is black. It's still racism.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 17 3.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
It's no different if a black actor is preferred over another only because he/she is black. It's still racism. You will never stop people identifying with others similar to themselves.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 17 4.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You will never stop people identifying with others similar to themselves. That doesn't mean by race though. Race is a rather superficial basis to identify with someone else. As far as I'm aware, race doesn't preclude people being a c**t.
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the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 19 Jul 17 4.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think that is a rather short sighted observation. New Zealand might have fallen to the Germans or Japanese had the war gone on longer and Poland was liberated from the Nazis by Russia who would not have been on the offensive without allied involvement. Sorry, but that is plain wrong. Russia became involved due to Hitler's breach of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact (by attempting to invade Russia). They simply continued to push on. The eastern and western fronts were in a way 2 wars Germany was fighting at the same time. Russia was in the war for it's own reasons and it had zip all to do with what the Americans or British were doing.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 17 5.04pm | |
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Originally posted by the_mcanuff_stuff
Sorry, but that is plain wrong. Russia became involved due to Hitler's breach of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact (by attempting to invade Russia). They simply continued to push on. The eastern and western fronts were in a way 2 wars Germany was fighting at the same time. Russia was in the war for its own reasons and it had zip all to do with what the Americans or British were doing. So if Germany had not been fighting the British and the Americans on two other fronts the result would have been the same? I don't think so.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 17 5.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think that is a rather short sighted observation. New Zealand might have fallen to the Germans or Japanese had the war gone on longer and Poland was liberated from the Nazis by Russia who would not have been on the offensive without allied involvement. Not really, once the Battle of Midway was done, the Japanese capacity for a naval invasion was non-existent - Doing so would have left Japan open to the US main fleet. Russia had assistance from the Allies, but primarily the US. Militarily, the Russians were largely dependent on three factors for victory, disposable man power, their own capacity for production (notably of artillery and tanks) and the German military's inability to properly re-equip suitably for defence following the halt of the blitzkrieg style assault. A problem the German military didn't have in Europe, where the initial speed of their attack and rapid advance led to them overrunning the European forces. However this wasn't the case on the Russian front, and the German military had monumentally overstretched their supply lines, and were ill equipped to defend territory and for winter - allowing the Soviets to regroup and counter attack. The Germans were also plagued by the soviet backed and organised partisans operating from within Poland right through the Ukraine and Russian territory - who specifically targeted the supply lines. Add that to the Russian Scorched Earth Policy, and the Germans war effort was doomed to failure by the end of 1941. At this point the UK forces were desperately re-equipping in the UK and incapable of opening a second front in mainland Europe.
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jul 17 5.10pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
That doesn't mean by race though. Race is a rather superficial basis to identify with someone else. As far as I'm aware, race doesn't preclude people being a c**t. True. It is way more complicated than that. There is a balance of criteria, conscious or subconscious, that people use for association and identification.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jul 17 5.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So if Germany had not been fighting the British and the Americans on two other fronts the result would have been the same? I don't think so. Yes. Pretty much, the only difference would be that Russian would have been a far more popular language in Western Europe. By the time of the Normandy landings the Soviet had won the Battle of Stalingrad, Moscow and Leningrad and rolled over the Germans at Kursk in July 1943 (the last real German offensive on the Eastern Front). Although in fairness, British spies did tell the Russians where the Germans would attack, and the invasion of Sicily did draw down German reserves for Kursk somewhat. But the reality was that it wouldn't have made much difference. The second front the UK and Allies launched sped up the war in the East, and almost certainly prevented the Russian war machine from 'liberating' all of Europe. The Germans just couldn't cope with casualties in the way the Russians could.
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