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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Nothing wrong with a bit of Anarchism and anti-capitalism, provided your not murdering people and bombing etc.

Yep, fully agree. The free discussion and trading of ideas leads to the moderation of them and good ideas can even come out of initially bad ideas. If people aren't bashing you over the head or forcing things on you then it's a healthy aspect of wider democracy...well as I see it.

I feel like the retreat into ever smaller bubbles isn't good for any of us and Hol works as a nice counter balance for me in that. I get my views both validated and challenged and I think that's healthy for all of us....well any of us that do any reflection at all.

I see some possibilities in aspects of anarchism's dislike of leaders....though obviously as apart of the wider discussion.

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston Yesterday 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Rather than soil the Barcelona thread and drag it off into this swamp, I'll comment on Trump's response to that awful attack here. He tweeted out a reference to General Pershing, which is an anecdote that was one of his staples on the campaign trail.

General Pershing, as Trump tells it, ended Islamic terrorism for a generation by rounding up 50 Muslims, shooting 49 of them with bullets dipped in pigs' blood, and sending the 50th off to tell everyone what would happen to them.

It's a story that gets merrily forwarded to your email by your relative who watches too much Fox News, and this is likely where Trump picked it up from as he has history of this. Like most such missives, though, it's completely untrue and never happened.

Still, if it makes him feel good about himself after people have been killed in the street, then who am I to complain.

 


We don't do possession. We do defense and attack; everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Rather than soil the Barcelona thread and drag it off into this swamp, I'll comment on Trump's response to that awful attack here. He tweeted out a reference to General Pershing, which is an anecdote that was one of his staples on the campaign trail.

General Pershing, as Trump tells it, ended Islamic terrorism for a generation by rounding up 50 Muslims, shooting 49 of them with bullets dipped in pigs' blood, and sending the 50th off to tell everyone what would happen to them.

It's a story that gets merrily forwarded to your email by your relative who watches too much Fox News, and this is likely where Trump picked it up from as he has history of this. Like most such missives, though, it's completely untrue and never happened.

Still, if it makes him feel good about himself after people have been killed in the street, then who am I to complain.

And that encapsulates Trump's (and the populists generally on either side of the spectrum) ethos; providing simplistic solutions to complex problems will always appeal to the hard of thinking, but will be totally lacking in providing solutions.

Using lies and distortions to appeal to his supporters has become the norm now; but why let that stand in the way of democracy!

 


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Originally posted by crystal balls

And that encapsulates Trump's (and the populists generally on either side of the spectrum) ethos; providing simplistic solutions to complex problems will always appeal to the hard of thinking, but will be totally lacking in providing solutions.

Using lies and distortions to appeal to his supporters has become the norm now; but why let that stand in the way of democracy!

Couldn't of put it better myself. Bang on

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Still, if it makes him feel good about himself after people have been killed in the street, then who am I to complain.

What are you still doing on here moaning about Trump. Shouldn't you be out and about punching Nazis?

 

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Originally posted by crystal balls

And that encapsulates Trump's (and the populists generally on either side of the spectrum) ethos; providing simplistic solutions to complex problems will always appeal to the hard of thinking, but will be totally lacking in providing solutions.

Using lies and distortions to appeal to his supporters has become the norm now; but why let that stand in the way of democracy!

I think it's valid to criticise Trump in the regard that he puts forward simplistic solutions and that he lies and distorts. Yep, all valid.

However, he's been there six months and already he's managed to get China to implement trade sanctions onto North Korea that cost China themselves between 1 and 3 billion.

Obama never managed that....Obama didn't concern the big hitters like China or Russia. Trump does. China know that the default position of Trump and Bannon is to have a trade war with them so they are keen to avoid it up to a point. Perhaps being tougher South Korean is their method and compromise position.

I'm very aware that while its totally right to criticise Trump that you and posters like you will see everything he does through the same prism. So if Trump does something useful you will still demonise it.

Sanders had the correct attitude and response to Trump as far as I can see.

 

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