Well, there are a hell of a lot of people with British passports who technically qualify as British that personally I don't accept as British.

For me my qualification is, 'who would you fight for...or support if you had to'. Tebbit was right...It really is the cricket test and always has been....There are some tricky areas accepted...people with parents of different nationalities and so on...There are exceptions to every rule if you are going to try to be fair.

Nationality is where the heart is....which is normally down to your cultural upbringing. Personally I like how Japan regard nationality....to them it's important...I wouldn't have exactly the same system though. Being a low level nationalist it is to me as well....But that doesn't mean I think I'm better than someone else just because I call myself English...That's absurd and an argument from some opponents who only see a caricature.

I've taught foreign students I've encouraged to live here because they are truly excellent people who love the country and others that I've privately really wished wouldn't be here.

But we can't issue passports on what people say, because people lie to gain advantage all the time....So it's parents, etc etc.

But that don't mean sh1t in my book

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Aug 2017 6.57am)

Nah that's bollocks. Every Indian I know supports the Indian cricket team and the England Football and Rugby teams. Its complicated - all people have loyalities and ties that go beyond nationality.

My best friends dad is Kenyan Indian, he supports India at cricket, he also was part of the Air Force as a meteorologist for 15 years. None of his family that I've met regard themselves as being Indian, but British-Indian, in the same way that plenty of people are British-Scottish, or British-English.

People have ties to those nations, family, friends that go back generations, as well as ties to family and friends here. If someone was willing to cut all those ties to be British, I don't think I'd want them truth be told.

Should I surrender my heritage just so I can be British in someone elses eyes, when its a definition of British I don't agree with?

People are very complicated - Its absurd to expect people to abandon all their ties to a homeland, and then celebrate it when other British people retain their ties to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in the same way.