Yes, they did. Later, their successors decided that owning people was wrong and changed the law; Robert E. Lee and his ilk took up arms in opposition to that and nearly a million people died.

Also, giving a historical black figure equal prominence with a Confederate general is a Bolasian missing of the point.

Edited by Ray in Houston (16 Aug 2017 5.47pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

You appear quite relaxed about the airbrushing performed by erecting these statues in the first place.

If spitting at a monument makes you want to punch someone in the face, consider what the political placement of this monument during a time of lynchings and heavy KKK activity decades after the civil war does to a person of colour and their families. Or don't their relatives count?

That's what I mean about this one sided emotional connection. These movements on the left and right take advantage of the most emotionally numb to one side of an argument. You called Richard Spencer a 'jerk' in the other thread. Maybe you should ask yourself why you need to water down the fact that he's a white supremacist who wants 'peaceful ethnic cleaning' and has denounced Jews but not Adolf Hitler.. why don't you appear to particularly care about that but someone spitting gets you filled with rage.

Still, violence on all sides is wrong in my book, whether aimed at an angry white supremacist, someone spitting at a monument, a ranting raving university student. They're going to need heavier police presence at these events.

Why,surely it would say that the country has come a long way since black people were owned by white people..
I would say it sends out a positive message.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

You are so full of nonsense. Jefferson Davis was the leader of the confederacy. Hitler led the Nazi party and Germany.

I'd have no problem with a statue of Rommel. There are statues of him in Germany. Like Lee he was a general under whom many died.

The statue of Lee was in the south. Having a statue of Rommel in the UK would be like having a statue of Lee in the north.

I'm getting fed up with your nonsense now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Aug 2017 7.12pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

But not those traitors so any monuments to them should be ripped down. Are you certain none of their descendants let out a good old rebel yell? Also Washington must appear nowhere, vile traitor and slave owner.

What's Yannick got to do with it? My idea would sort out everyones problems, a confederate soldier alongside perhaps a black soldier who fought on the Union or Confederate side (not many I grant you but there were some).

Edited by johnno42000 (16 Aug 2017 8.01pm)

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'