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 Mapletree  Croydon 12 Oct 17 10.18pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
How is that fair? Surely there is someone on here that can wax lyrical about the need for both direct and indirect tax for fiscal policy reasons and the regressive effect of a flat rate income tax. There are reasons why the tax structure is how it is and is similar in almost all countries.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 17 10.19pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
How is that fair? It's not right either. You only pay higher tax over a certain threshold. It just means that all those people who seemingly have big pay packets don't take home as much as you might think.
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Park Road  12 Oct 17 11.14pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Agree. Keep us informed on here with what the FLA plans next. Won't be till after Xmas when next march is planned
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Oct 17 11.45pm |
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Originally posted by Park Road
Won't be till after Xmas when next march is planned What did you make of that video I linked to earlier. A combination of articulate reasoned arguments and complete potheads I thought.
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| Park Road 13 Oct 17 12.07am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What did you make of that video I linked to earlier. A combination of articulate reasoned arguments and complete potheads I thought. worth a watch interesting.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Oct 17 12.41am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I love the way people bandy around phrases like 'wealty' and 'rich' and 'regressive'. What you really mean is that you were happy when people with more money were paying more instead of you. Ooh, passion. My circumstances, and my financial situation which you don't know, are irrelevant. The poll tax is a regressive tax, simple as that. And people with more should pay more, moving everyone upwards and not just the wealthi(er). It's sensible for a peaceful and smooth functioning society without the chaos, anarchy, crime and looting. I agreed with the poll tax riots, but not the Duggan riots for a pair of trainers or a tv because of said drug dealer. Absolutely stupid and selfish someone at 18 on a couple of quid an hour in their parents or in a bed sit should pay equal to someone who moved into an expensive house on a good wage knowing then the rates were high. Just selfish.
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| Park Road 13 Oct 17 5.53am |
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Decent blog from the spectator
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Oct 17 7.52am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Ooh, passion. My circumstances, and my financial situation which you don't know, are irrelevant. The poll tax is a regressive tax, simple as that. And people with more should pay more, moving everyone upwards and not just the wealthi(er). It's sensible for a peaceful and smooth functioning society without the chaos, anarchy, crime and looting. I agreed with the poll tax riots, but not the Duggan riots for a pair of trainers or a tv because of said drug dealer. Absolutely stupid and selfish someone at 18 on a couple of quid an hour in their parents or in a bed sit should pay equal to someone who moved into an expensive house on a good wage knowing then the rates were high. Just selfish. The rates were on the house, not the person. SO it's OK for only homeowners to pay rates for services provided but everyone else gets off free? And that is fair? Please.
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| Stirlingsays 13 Oct 17 7.52am |
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Agreed with every word. Labour aren't really interested in the working class. We have to go back a long way for that now. They are interested in their socialist and now partial communist ideology. They are worse than the Tories, not because the Tories help the working classes directly but because Labour lie about helping them.....when in reality, screwing the economy and over crowding their living spaces with different non integrating cultures to boot worsens their lives considerably. Blair's so angry and desperate about Brexit because at the back of his mind he knows he's the most responsible for it.....Feck if it wasn't for Brown we'd be in the Euro.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Oct 17 7.58am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Agreed with every word. Labour aren't really interested in the working class. We have to go back a long way for that now. They are interested in their socialist and now partial communist ideology. They are worse than the Tories, not because the Tories help the working classes directly but because Labour lie about helping them.....when in reality, screwing the economy and over crowding their living spaces with different non integrating cultures to boot worsens their lives considerably. Blair's so angry and desperate about Brexit because at the back of his mind he knows he's the most responsible for it.....Feck if it wasn't for Brown we'd be in the Euro. Nail on head. It makes me particualrly annoyed when I hear Corbyn going on about the NHS.
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| Park Road 13 Oct 17 8.01am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Agreed with every word. Labour aren't really interested in the working class. We have to go back a long way for that now. They are interested in their socialist and now partial communist ideology. They are worse than the Tories, not because the Tories help the working classes directly but because Labour lie about helping them.....when in reality, screwing the economy and over crowding their living spaces with different non integrating cultures to boot worsens their lives considerably. Blair's so angry and desperate about Brexit because at the back of his mind he knows he's the most responsible for it.....Feck if it wasn't for Brown we'd be in the Euro.
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Kermit8  Hevon 13 Oct 17 8.18am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Agreed with every word. Labour aren't really interested in the working class. We have to go back a long way for that now. They are interested in their socialist and now partial communist ideology. They are worse than the Tories, not because the Tories help the working classes directly but because Labour lie about helping them.....when in reality, screwing the economy and over crowding their living spaces with different non integrating cultures to boot worsens their lives considerably. Blair's so angry and desperate about Brexit because at the back of his mind he knows he's the most responsible for it.....Feck if it wasn't for Brown we'd be in the Euro. Now I am no fan of Blair nor Brown (as PM) but those last two assertions are just not true. The fait accompli of both had its nascence under The Tories back in the 90's. Labour could have delayed for seven years Eastern Euro immigration but chose not to but it still would have happened in 2011 at the latest.
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