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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 1.10pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Your attitude is noted. When a person refused to stop posting to two individuals and your response is effectively I don't care and you support that person I think that's unfortunate. He has just started private messaging me as it happens. This isn't a good thing. He evidently expected your support as he encouraged the complaint. I sent you one message asking what you were going to complain about.
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Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 1.10pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Your attitude is noted.

When a person refused to stop posting to two individuals and your response is effectively I don't care and you support that person I think that's unfortunate.

He has just started private messaging me as it happens. This isn't a good thing. He evidently expected your support as he encouraged the complaint.

I sent you one message asking what you were going to complain about.

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 17 1.17pm
Originally posted by nickgusset So when are the right going to speak out about the rise in hate crime? I don't think you've answered that. Well prove that there has been one for a start. I remember many moons ago having a discussion about a rise in street crime and crime generally which directly related to the rise in immigration since the 50's . The pattern is quite clear. I was told by people of a left leaning disposition that it was all down to better record keeping and more reporting of crime. So you can read into that answer what you like. Now I have covered your inquiry once again, I will just say that you zealotry and self righteousness clearly overpower any common sense or objectivity that you may have. Other like minded people might encourage you or reinforce your attitude but I personally think that the net result will only be a negative one for your mental health. As a fellow human being, I'd urge you to take a step back and chill out. As a realist,I know that you will carry on being the blinkered, zealous, naive fruit cake that you have become. You have my sympathy. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Oct 2017 1.17pm)
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22 Oct 17 1.17pm

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Originally posted by nickgusset

So when are the right going to speak out about the rise in hate crime? I don't think you've answered that.

Well prove that there has been one for a start.

I remember many moons ago having a discussion about a rise in street crime and crime generally which directly related to the rise in immigration since the 50's . The pattern is quite clear. I was told by people of a left leaning disposition that it was all down to better record keeping and more reporting of crime.

So you can read into that answer what you like.

Now I have covered your inquiry once again, I will just say that you zealotry and self righteousness clearly overpower any common sense or objectivity that you may have. Other like minded people might encourage you or reinforce your attitude but I personally think that the net result will only be a negative one for your mental health. As a fellow human being, I'd urge you to take a step back and chill out. As a realist,I know that you will carry on being the blinkered, zealous, naive fruit cake that you have become.

You have my sympathy.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Oct 2017 1.17pm)

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Stirlingsays Online 22 Oct 17 1.24pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I sent you one message asking what you were going to complain about. You sent me two, separated by eight minutes. You effectively boast by encouraging my complaint. Fair enough, I complained and made my voice known. I expect nothing more. Your PMs were in response to this issue so fair enough but I would ask that you don't PM me unless absolutely necessary. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Oct 17 1.24pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I sent you one message asking what you were going to complain about.

You sent me two, separated by eight minutes.

You effectively boast by encouraging my complaint. Fair enough, I complained and made my voice known. I expect nothing more.

Your PMs were in response to this issue so fair enough but I would ask that you don't PM me unless absolutely necessary.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 1.30pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Here's the actual footage. [Link] Note when she laughed then compare that with the way it was reported in the Telegraph (nothing recent in the Google search I note) and the way you've conveyed what Miss Phillips laughed at. She did not laugh at the list you provided that Philip Hammond said in the committee, that came after she laughed. She laughed at the idea of men being under represented. Try again. I'd stop making your sources wot you base your opinions on ex sources, then you won't be hoodwinked. Or embarrassed when you find what you've been led to believe is bollocks. Stirling, are you going to concede you were wrong on this point? You seem to have conveniently missed it.
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Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 1.30pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Here's the actual footage. [Link]

Note when she laughed then compare that with the way it was reported in the Telegraph (nothing recent in the Google search I note) and the way you've conveyed what Miss Phillips laughed at.

She did not laugh at the list you provided that Philip Hammond said in the committee, that came after she laughed. She laughed at the idea of men being under represented.

Try again. I'd stop making your sources wot you base your opinions on ex sources, then you won't be hoodwinked.
Or embarrassed when you find what you've been led to believe is bollocks.

Stirling, are you going to concede you were wrong on this point? You seem to have conveniently missed it.

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elgrande bedford 22 Oct 17 1.34pm
Originally posted by nickgusset All in here mate. [Link] Edit forgot to add link to official government documents. Edited by nickgusset (22 Oct 2017 1.11pm) I'm off to prep for tonight's show then take the hound out. We'll be on at 8. Make sure you listen. Edited by nickgusset (22 Oct 2017 1.12pm) So a person has to ring the police and report it,with out any investigations or convictions. I think all hate crimes are wrong,but i have doubts about those figures,seems rather convenient with the bexit vote. And deflection from the terrorist attacks,and the 20,000 on the security services watch lists. But as i said,i do not agree with hate crimes. But out of interset,are the systematic abusing of white girls by asian paedophile gangs classed as hate crimes,cos that would put the numbers up a large amount. Edited by elgrande (22 Oct 2017 1.35pm) always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 22 Oct 17 1.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

All in here mate.
[Link]

Edit forgot to add link to official government documents.

Edited by nickgusset (22 Oct 2017 1.11pm)

I'm off to prep for tonight's show then take the hound out. We'll be on at 8. Make sure you listen.

Edited by nickgusset (22 Oct 2017 1.12pm)

So a person has to ring the police and report it,with out any investigations or convictions.
I think all hate crimes are wrong,but i have doubts about those figures,seems rather convenient with the bexit vote.
And deflection from the terrorist attacks,and the 20,000 on the security services watch lists.

But as i said,i do not agree with hate crimes.
But out of interset,are the systematic abusing of white girls by asian paedophile gangs classed as hate crimes,cos that would put the numbers up a large amount.

Edited by elgrande (22 Oct 2017 1.35pm)

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 1.37pm
One last article from me. The Telegraph interviews someone who posed as a Muslim for a week... Programme on ch4 this week. [Link]
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One last article from me.

The Telegraph interviews someone who posed as a Muslim for a week... Programme on ch4 this week.

[Link]

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Stirlingsays Online 22 Oct 17 1.41pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Stirling, are you going to concede you were wrong on this point? You seem to have conveniently missed it. I'm not wrong on this point at all and I did miss that post. I tend to answer most points put to me, unlike how some have been. I never made the puerile suggestion that she laughed in direct response to those figures. She laughed because she is a misandrist as she is well aware of all of the issues that are raised. She since said she would vote against them being heard. You could have only men in the house but If you don't debate these concerns what difference does that make? Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2017 1.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Oct 17 1.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Stirling, are you going to concede you were wrong on this point? You seem to have conveniently missed it.

I'm not wrong on this point at all and I did miss that post. I tend to answer most points put to me, unlike how some have been.

I never made the puerile suggestion that she laughed in direct response to those figures. She laughed because she is a misandrist as she is well aware of all of the issues that are raised. She since said she would vote against them being heard.

You could have only men in the house but If you don't debate these concerns what difference does that make?

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2017 1.50pm)

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Kermit8 Hevon 22 Oct 17 2.02pm
As its autumn and what with the tone of this thread may I suggest you lot sort it out in a more mature way. Attachment: conkers for the bonkers.jpg (43.14Kb) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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As its autumn and what with the tone of this thread may I suggest you lot sort it out in a more mature way.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 2.02pm
Originally posted by elgrande So a person has to ring the police and report it,with out any investigations or convictions. I think all hate crimes are wrong,but i have doubts about those figures,seems rather convenient with the bexit vote. And deflection from the terrorist attacks,and the 20,000 on the security services watch lists. But as i said,i do not agree with hate crimes. But out of interset,are the systematic abusing of white girls by asian paedophile gangs classed as hate crimes,cos that would put the numbers up a large amount. Edited by elgrande (22 Oct 2017 1.35pm) Not deflecting from those crimes and the watch list. It's all related. In not sure if the gangs crimes were considered racially motivated in court or not. Hate crimes are up. I see the rhetoric around Brexit as one of the drivers of this. There are other factors as you have said, but that does not automatically mean that xenophobic Brexit rhetoris plays no part. That would be a facile stance to take. Problem is, some people can't admit this might be the case because they've invested so much of themselves in their entrenched position on the debate. Am I right in thinking that you have relented and feel ready to interact again?
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Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 2.02pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Edited by elgrande (22 Oct 2017 1.35pm)

Not deflecting from those crimes and the watch list. It's all related. In not sure if the gangs crimes were considered racially motivated in court or not.

Hate crimes are up. I see the rhetoric around Brexit as one of the drivers of this. There are other factors as you have said, but that does not automatically mean that xenophobic Brexit rhetoris plays no part. That would be a facile stance to take.
Problem is, some people can't admit this might be the case because they've invested so much of themselves in their entrenched position on the debate.

Am I right in thinking that you have relented and feel ready to interact again?

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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 17 2.20pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Not deflecting from those crimes and the watch list. It's all related. In not sure if the gangs crimes were considered racially motivated in court or not. Hate crimes are up. I see the rhetoric around Brexit as one of the drivers of this. There are other factors as you have said, but that does not automatically mean that xenophobic Brexit rhetoris plays no part. That would be a facile stance to take. Problem is, some people can't admit this might be the case because they've invested so much of themselves in their entrenched position on the debate. Am I right in thinking that you have relented and feel ready to interact again? The irony.
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22 Oct 17 2.20pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Not deflecting from those crimes and the watch list. It's all related. In not sure if the gangs crimes were considered racially motivated in court or not.

Hate crimes are up. I see the rhetoric around Brexit as one of the drivers of this. There are other factors as you have said, but that does not automatically mean that xenophobic Brexit rhetoris plays no part. That would be a facile stance to take.
Problem is, some people can't admit this might be the case because they've invested so much of themselves in their entrenched position on the debate.

Am I right in thinking that you have relented and feel ready to interact again?

The irony.

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elgrande bedford 22 Oct 17 2.47pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Not deflecting from those crimes and the watch list. It's all related. In not sure if the gangs crimes were considered racially motivated in court or not. Hate crimes are up. I see the rhetoric around Brexit as one of the drivers of this. There are other factors as you have said, but that does not automatically mean that xenophobic Brexit rhetoris plays no part. That would be a facile stance to take. Problem is, some people can't admit this might be the case because they've invested so much of themselves in their entrenched position on the debate. Am I right in thinking that you have relented and feel ready to interact again? Not really,a good night sleep helps,but i stand by what i said. I find it very had to dislike people.i will post occasionally but i am going to take a back seat from now on. And,that itself is what i get angry at,why were they not seen as racial crimes in court,they are. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 22 Oct 17 2.47pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Not deflecting from those crimes and the watch list. It's all related. In not sure if the gangs crimes were considered racially motivated in court or not.

Am I right in thinking that you have relented and feel ready to interact again?

Not really,a good night sleep helps,but i stand by what i said.
I find it very had to dislike people.i will post occasionally but i am going to take a back seat from now on.
And,that itself is what i get angry at,why were they not seen as racial crimes in court,they are.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Stirlingsays Online 22 Oct 17 3.15pm
Originally posted by elgrande Not really,a good night sleep helps,but i stand by what i said. I find it very had to dislike people.i will post occasionally but i am going to take a back seat from now on. And,that itself is what i get angry at,why were they not seen as racial crimes in court,they are. I very much doubt that if the boot were on the other foot so to speak that the biggest labeller on this site would suddenly be bothered about a muddling of the water on definitions. Obviously in this case the most important distinction was between whether they were Muslim or not. How much the race played a part is hard to say......but it's unlikely that rapists are the kind of people to have particularly high ethics on race. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Oct 17 3.15pm

Originally posted by elgrande

I very much doubt that if the boot were on the other foot so to speak that the biggest labeller on this site would suddenly be bothered about a muddling of the water on definitions.

Obviously in this case the most important distinction was between whether they were Muslim or not. How much the race played a part is hard to say......but it's unlikely that rapists are the kind of people to have particularly high ethics on race.

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