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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 5.33pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Because it needs addressing and people like you burying their heads are the reason its such a big problem,they have been geeting away with it for years.
At least 10 towns and cities,1000s and 1000s of poor exploited young girls.
And that is a f***ing massive problem.

I'm not burying my head. I've said it's a heinous problem. But it's funny how you decide to talk about it to deflect away from a reported rise in hate crimes.

Still at least hedgehog was a bit different by using pensioner muggings as his dead cat.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm not burying my head. I've said it's a heinous problem. But it's funny how you decide to talk about it to deflect away from a reported rise in hate crimes.

Still at least hedgehog was a bit different by using pensioner muggings as his dead cat.

I think you might be the king of deflection sunshine.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm not burying my head. I've said it's a heinous problem. But it's funny how you decide to talk about it to deflect away from a reported rise in hate crimes.

Still at least hedgehog was a bit different by using pensioner muggings as his dead cat.

You are terminally thick aren't you.
So you don't see the obvious connection between Muslim rape gangs, terrorism, increased steet crime, religious dogma and division, suppressed wages and possible greater resentment toward foreigners?

Only a moron wouldn't.

And despite all that, I refer you to my previous post about how crime figures are gathered.
You can't produce a convincing argument on this and yet you keep repeating the same claims like some sort of defective robot.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Oct 17 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by tome

Isn't the point here that political alignment is no filter for brains? Plenty of stupidity on all sides of the political debate.

Their was only one political side in power here whose inaction enabled the rape of many girls, most of them underage.....though I would add that fear of being called a racist probably infects most of these positions regardless of party.......But it has to be said that this accusation overwhelmingly comes from the ideological left....They hound even those within their own party who have raised these problems.

Originally posted by tome

The problem I see is twofold. The first is that some of the PC - nonsense has been perpetuated by idiots who would ban christmas because it might offend muslims. The second is this kind of action is seen as representative of multiculturalism and the left, when it's usually a few fringe elements with a screw loose.

One manifestation is that these representations are those most often reported and frothed over by the press, which in the main is more right wing.

So you've got the disproportionate coverage than can be reasonably associated with the fringe elements on the right, but the ubiquity of these stories is unbalanced, which I think is Nick's point.

Perhaps if this commentary on the thread had been referring to some spurious points made by the right wing press then this would have some relevance.

What point is there in introducing those into the discussion on a case where thousands of girls have been raped?

It's just deflection and avoidance of the real problems that exist and are one negative consequence of multiculturalism.


Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2017 5.48pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps if this commentary on the thread had been referring to some spurious points made by the right wing press then this would have some relevance.

What point is there in introducing those into the discussion on a case where thousands of girls have been raped?

It's just deflection and avoidance of the real problems that exist and are one negative consequence of multiculturalism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2017 5.47pm)

I'm just going to answer your last point, because I understood the issue of the gangs in Rotherham was that little action was taken because of the perception that to do so would be seen as 'racist'. My point is that such a view is representative of idiocy and cowardice, not multiculturalism.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Oct 17 5.54pm

Originally posted by elgrande

I think you might be the king of deflection sunshine.

who is the one off subject?

 

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every culture and race has its idiots, using racist, homophobic and hatred.
I work in a very multicultural setting, predominantly indian, i hear the young lads say they wouldn't/couldn't date white girls, young arabic girls say they could only date arabic boys - why? to preserve their culture/it's what their parents want etc - i seem them all socialize in large groups and navigate towards each other.

Many people agree with that and say 'nothing wrong with wanting your culture to continue, it's just the way it is and sticking to what you know or can relate too' yet some people say it's racist - if a white person openly said, 'i only want to date white women' imagine that.

But every culture, race, nation, community has far better people in it, far more. so by focusing on the small minority, it detracts from the good.

It feels obvious to me that the media, powers that be, want us al hating each other and they fuel this.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 22 Oct 17 5.57pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I'm not burying my head. I've said it's a heinous problem. But it's funny how you decide to talk about it to deflect away from a reported rise in hate crimes.

Still at least hedgehog was a bit different by using pensioner muggings as his dead cat.



That's exactly what it is, reported. In our current progressive society, if anyone 'reports' a 'hate crime' without any evidence whatsoever, it is logged as a hate crime and is used in the 'statistics' that left wing propagandists bandy about. These same left wing propagandists can phone in 'reports' by the dozen every day if they want and dozens of crimes are added to the figures. Current hate crime statistics have about as much relation to reality as the pig-iron production figures in Orwell's '1984'.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

who is the one off subject?

It's a subject with no substance.

 

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Originally posted by tome

I'm just going to answer your last point, because I understood the issue of the gangs in Rotherham was that little action was taken because of the perception that to do so would be seen as 'racist'. My point is that such a view is representative of idiocy and cowardice, not multiculturalism.

I agree that these decisions were born of cowardice (oh I'll be called a racist) and probably social ideas on class....ie these are 'underclass' girls who are nothing but trouble...that kind of thing.

My point on multiculturalism is a reflection on its failure as a successful concept for significantly different cultures.....it has failed.

Some cultures integrate better than others.....That's why the Chinese earn more than anyone else and do better at school than anyone else.....It's why the Jews hold more nobel prizes in the world than any other culture....despite there only being 15 million of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2017 6.04pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree that these decisions were born of cowardice (oh I'll be called a racist) and probably social ideas on class....ie these are 'underclass' girls who are nothing but trouble...that kind of thing.

My point on multiculturalism is a reflection on its failure as a successful concept for significantly different cultures.....it has failed.

Some cultures integrate better than others.....That's why the Chinese earn more than anyone else and do better at school than anyone else.....It's why the Jews hold more nobel prizes in the world than any other culture....despite there only being 15 million of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Oct 2017 6.04pm)

Hmmm. I get the impression that you think that multiculturalism is a deliberate action. I am not sure about that, I think it could be seen as a consequence of free trade. Having the best ideas usually required a diversity in thought; something more likely to occur if more perspectives are present. So, it could be seen as the desire to have a competitive economy by providing a constructive environment for new ideas.

Sure, there are idiots who misconstrue this or misuse it or abuse others, but I tend to think of it as a by product rather than an exercise in social engineering - which if I understand some of your views correctly, is closer to you thinking?

 


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Originally posted by Vaibow

every culture and race has its idiots, using racist, homophobic and hatred.
I work in a very multicultural setting, predominantly indian, i hear the young lads say they wouldn't/couldn't date white girls, young arabic girls say they could only date arabic boys - why? to preserve their culture/it's what their parents want etc - i seem them all socialize in large groups and navigate towards each other.

Many people agree with that and say 'nothing wrong with wanting your culture to continue, it's just the way it is and sticking to what you know or can relate too' yet some people say it's racist - if a white person openly said, 'i only want to date white women' imagine that.

But every culture, race, nation, community has far better people in it, far more. so by focusing on the small minority, it detracts from the good.

It feels obvious to me that the media, powers that be, want us al hating each other and they fuel this.

What do you reckon they get out of it, other than sensationalist headlines for easy sales?

 


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