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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Nov 17 3.22pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

You clearly can't have a system in which the results are amended after the match because surely nobody wants results of matches hanging in the balance waiting for some panel to pronounce on them. Chaos. Docking points wouldn't be a bad idea though.

Given the technology available today and already in use in other sports, it isn't too much to ask that the FA do everything possible to make sure the decisions are right.


They don't because it isn't in their interests.

The FA are definitely interested in VAR.

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chateauferret Flag 19 Nov 17 3.25pm

Originally posted by Willo

I'm NOT going to respond to ANY posts which accuse referees of cheating.It really is reprehensible and repugnant to cast such aspersions.Thank you.

Of course football referees are paragons of honesty and above reproach. Right?

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chateauferret Flag 19 Nov 17 3.32pm

Originally posted by becky

It wasn't that many years ago that we had all the floodlight failures that were being rigged by a Malaysian betting ring to facilitate the results they wanted.

That was pretty basic and the world and technology has moved on a lot since then (1990's I believe it was), but just because it may all have got more sophisticated and harder to spot/prove doesn't mean that it isn't happening.

They were caught doing it at Clowntown in 1999 and it was subsequently found that two incidents in November (Wet Spam) and December (Wimbledon at Selhurst Park) 1997 were also their responsibility.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 19 Nov 17 3.36pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Of course football referees are paragons of honesty and above reproach. Right?

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A list of incidents reported from abroad.

No evidence whatsoever of any PL referee making a decision in a game knowing that it was wrong just to favour a particular side or to gain any financial inducements from it.

 

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chateauferret Flag 19 Nov 17 3.42pm

Originally posted by Willo

A list of incidents reported from abroad.

No evidence whatsoever of any PL referee making a decision in a game knowing that it was wrong just to favour a particular side or to gain any financial inducements from it.

There will be, Willo. There will be.

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Still sure it couldn't happen in the EPL?

"In every top league in Europe and around the world, there have been investigations and scandals about match-fixing. Some have involved refs. Others involved players. The objective in most of these cases was to rig games for the benefit of betting syndicates. The exceptions involved matches where refs had been bought by one team or another."


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View auk's Profile auk Flag 19 Nov 17 4.12pm Send a Private Message to auk Add auk as a friend

In my view, the ref was too quick in making the penalty decision.

If he’d allowed another half-second, the assistant ref or fourth official , Andre Marriner, might have said : “Dive!”

But if Niasse had been booked for simulation, then subbed at half-time, perhaps Rooney would have come on and scored a hat trick.

So perhaps the incident worked to our advantage.

I was surprised (and relieved) that Rooney never came off the bench.
I think Unsworth was too cautious and missed a trick.

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 19 Nov 17 4.25pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I'm not going down the 'Incompetence' route.
Referees have been demoted for not maintaining the standards set, just ask Stuart Attwell.


Really wouldnt expect you too Willo, as you are the major apologist for your favourite referees 'honest' or otherwise errors, especially if they happen to be against Palace.
One referee in the last 10 years?? Just one demotion? You always bring up stuart atwell, what about all the others Madely, Taylor, Marriner etc and dare I mention Clattenberg???..

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 19 Nov 17 4.29pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The FA are definitely interested in VAR.

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Yeah read that....fiddling while Rome burns springs to mind....it wont happen Willo, simply because it will make referees look bad and the FA cant be having that now, can they???

 

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View Slimey Toad's Profile Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 19 Nov 17 4.33pm Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Contrary to some posters here, who seem to live in a UKIP-flavoured 1950s idyllic English shire, top referees are no longer school masters who give up their weekends to enforce the laws of the game to oiks from Secondary schools.

If you want the rewards from the modern game you should expect the criticism and punishment when you cock up.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 19 Nov 17 5.33pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Like Mr W, I don't accept that referees are corrupt or that they consciously cheat.

What I strongly object to is their spinelessness, inconsistency and prejudices. I sometimes think they have their own unofficial rule book. For example, don't give a second yellow card, even though it may be more deserved than the first one, otherwise the player will be sent off. And don't give a straight red, however well deserved, if it's "too early in the game". And try never to red-card a player from one of the big teams playing at home. Award a penalty when one player is brushed off the ball, but never ever give one when Zaha is wrestled to the ground, as happens almost every game. When the number of fouls gets out of hand, just give up trying to enforce some discipline and let the offenders get on with it.

This pathetic behaviour of too many of them makes me sick.

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 19 Nov 17 6.08pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

JRW2 - you are spot on

 

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View simlaboy's Profile simlaboy Flag coulsdon 19 Nov 17 6.37pm Send a Private Message to simlaboy Add simlaboy as a friend

Taylor ,yesterday was totally incompetent, missed quite a bit in my view , but got home and watched MOTD and had to listen to Lineker and Co purring over Man City , would have been a different game if the Ref there had balls and had sent Kompany off ,evidently the experts concluded that the incident was too early in the game !

 

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