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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 May 20 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I mean the investigation into those responsible for abandoning the original enquiries.

The alleged abandonment and alleged subsequent cover up, I understand, was part of the investigation which produced this report. Maybe after someone has been tried and found guilty (or even sacked) we can remove the "alleged".

I realise there has been a lot of allegations, the ones from former Police officer Maggie Oliver seeming especially lucid and powerful, but we must wait to know what those accused have to say.

Maybe this report throws some light on that, but we are going to all have to wait to find out.

 


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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 01 May 20 3.15pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Show me where I have made any kind of excuse for any kind of crime. Including these!

I sometimes wonder whether people see words but read something else.
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Yeah because YOU are the ONLY one that is ALWAYS correct (in your own mind)

Edited by the silurian (01 May 2020 3.15pm)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 May 20 5.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Yeah because YOU are the ONLY one that is ALWAYS correct (in your own mind)

Edited by the silurian (01 May 2020 3.15pm)

If there is any connection between your response and what I actually wrote then I am darned if I can see it.

So well done. You have simply confirmed what I said.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 01 May 20 11.17pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Show me where I have made any kind of excuse for any kind of crime. Including these!

I sometimes wonder whether people see words but read something else.
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Yeah because YOU are the ONLY one that is ALWAYS correct (in your own mind)

Edited by the silurian (01 May 2020 3.15pm)

Wisbech reminds me of somebody on the BBS who is always correct. Same writing style and all.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 02 May 20 7.17am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


Wisbech reminds me of somebody on the BBS who is always correct. Same writing style and all.

Can we please discuss the subject matter and not the poster otherwise this thread will magically disappear

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 02 May 20 6.56pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I might be naive but you are demonstrably ignorant.

I have expressed no opinion on whether the "gang rape is disproportionaly from Asian men" in recent comments. In the past though I have said that this seems an established fact.

I have expressed no opinion on whether the report should, or should not, "remain secret" because I don't know the reasoning. All I have done is speculate on what the reasoning might be.

I cannot stop you thinking whatever you like but I know you are totally wrong. You are also a disgustingly rude and very ignorant man.

"Clearly there is a problem. No-one disputes, or has ever disputed that. It has nothing at all to do with that."
You quote.
You hold an opinion.

With that opinion it makes sence to want to see the findings of the report, yes? (after years of cover ups)

Or are you going to play nieve peodo sympathiser still?

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 02 May 20 7.52pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

are you going to play nieve peodo sympathiser still?

As usual they just ignore my request to stop insulting each other so I thought that the thread could disappear for a couple of days to allow them to cool off

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 08 May 20 7.49am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Just received this email. I felt at the time that the government side stepped the question in their responce

You recently signed the petition “Release the Home Office's Grooming Gang Review in full”:
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"The Petitions Committee (the group of MPs who oversee the petitions system) have considered the Government’s response to this petition. They felt that the response did not directly address the request of petition and have therefore written back to the Government to ask them to provide a revised response."

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 May 20 8.07am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Just received this email. I felt at the time that the government side stepped the question in their responce

You recently signed the petition “Release the Home Office's Grooming Gang Review in full”:
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"The Petitions Committee (the group of MPs who oversee the petitions system) have considered the Government’s response to this petition. They felt that the response did not directly address the request of petition and have therefore written back to the Government to ask them to provide a revised response."

I also received that email and agree. I think they should release the report others don't however the government's official response was nonsense it never addressed the request. If they are not going to publish it then say that and explain why, what we got was a background to why the report was commissioned and lessons learned.

 


One more point

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 08 May 20 8.10am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I also received that email and agree. I think they should release the report others don't however the government's official response was nonsense it never addressed the request. If they are not going to publish it then say that and explain why, what we got was a background to why the report was commissioned and lessons learned.

AND lessons wernt learned if they continue to hide the issue

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 May 20 8.10am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

This was the response

Government responded:
Tackling child sexual abuse is this Government’s priority. Any insights gained from our internal work will inform our future action to end this devastating abuse, including the forthcoming Strategy.
Child sexual abuse is a truly horrendous crime that shatters the lives of victims and their families. This Government has made it our mission to protect the most vulnerable in our society, and we will continue to work tirelessly at every level to protect children, support victims and stamp out offending.
Our approach is simple: we will do everything in our power to help those at risk and to leave offenders with no place to hide.
First, we have improved support for those who have suffered this appalling crime. We have increased funding for specialist local services for victims of sexual violence from £8 million to £12 million a year. Those affected have our unequivocal support, so we have also doubled our Support for Victims and Survivors of Child Sexual Abuse fund to £1.2 million, to help charities do more to help people across the country.
Second, the vile offenders preying on our children must face justice. The Home Office continues to support and drive improvements in the police response to child sexual abuse. We have prioritised this horrific crime as a national threat to ensure offenders face the full force of the law and provided significant Police Transformation Fund investment to improve the police response. Group offending must be eradicated, and we continue to provide Special Grant funding to forces carrying out major child sexual exploitation investigations.
Last September, we announced an additional £30 million to strengthen our mission to take down the worst offenders and safeguard and support victims. We continue to look for ways to do more and are developing a cross-government Child Sexual Abuse Strategy to ensure the whole system works for victims. The Strategy will set out how we will work across all sectors - including government, law enforcement, safeguarding and industry - to stop offenders in their tracks, and to help victims and survivors rebuild their lives.
Group-based child sexual exploitation is a particularly repugnant form of abuse that has a devasting impact on villages, towns and communities, particularly where it has gone on for years. These unthinkable crimes tear neighbourhoods apart and leave lasting scars that go beyond the direct victims. Extremists may also seek to exploit legitimate concerns to sow further division. The Government will continue to challenge these views and to help communities unite.
Child sexual abusers come from all walks of life, and from many different age groups, communities, ethnicities and faiths. Abuse is abuse, and misplaced sensitivities must never be allowed to put any child at risk. We are clear that police forces must continue to fully investigate these heinous crimes whenever and wherever they occur, and to ensure that anyone found responsible is prosecuted.
To help end this terrible form of abuse, the Home Office has been investigating the characteristics of group-based child sexual exploitation. It is right, proper and routine for the Government to carry out internal fact-finding work as part of policy development, as we do across a range of crime threats. Any insights gained from this important internal work will be used to inform our future action to end this devastating abuse, including the forthcoming Strategy.
Our research will help us better understand offending, to help prevent these vile crimes. Key findings will inform our own work, action at a local level, and law enforcement action to catch those responsible for this horrific abuse.
As part of our work, we have completed a review of existing literature. We have spoken to investigators and safeguarding professionals to better explore the challenges in investigating these crimes and their understanding of the offenders and victims of group-based child sexual exploitation.
The Government appreciates public interest in this matter and shares the nation’s outrage and determination to end this atrocious form of abuse. Mistakes have undoubtedly been made in the past and must never be allowed to happen again.
We will continue to work relentlessly to understand and end all forms of child sexual abuse. The most vulnerable in our society deserve our protection and we will work tirelessly to keep them safe and to bring their tormentors to justice.
Home Office

 


One more point

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 20 8.14am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

" We have prioritised this horrific crime as a national threat to ensure offenders face the full force of the law"

Sort of used language in a clever way. I dont think this wording would be used if it was peodos in general.

 

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