I very much doubt that the report generalises about Muslim society at all as the rational people that you speak about will realise that there are 2.6m Muslims living in Britain of which 2.55m are as well behaved as the rest of us and it's just a small minority spoiling it.

I would suggest that the exact opposite of what you suggest may be the truth in that far from rational people it is the country's many thickos like the paediatrician hunters of a few years ago that the Government is thinking of

Thank you for the measured remarks.

It's true that I have more faith in those who choose to offer themselves as our representatives than many appear to have. Having known a handful of them in my life I know that the motivation of those people was to serve us as best they can. Selfless people do actually exist and this blanket rejection of an "establishment", as though it exists as some kind of separate entity to the rest of society, doesn't chime with me.

My reasoning has always been that we need to accept our own responsibilities first, before criticising others. We choose them, so if we don't like what they do then change them. Even stand ourselves.

I despise apathy and want to see people engaged and active in making the decisions.

I think our current system does need an overhaul to ensure that there is a better, and more representative, Parliament in Westminster. So I am not uncritical. Just not of the same things.

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Oh but MY remarks were ONLY about the report. If others want to discuss other things that's up to them. I am not. The continuing "lengths" involved is me defending my integrity.

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Understand this point of course, visions of half-wits attacking the local, British owned, Nepalese restaurant come to mind.

There is the point however that we are therefore justifying the removal of any transparency for [punishing] the majority as a result of an assumed minority. I'd argue not very democratic. If further crimes are committed as a result, then prosecute accordingly.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I'm sure it doesn't, however, you have actually backed my point up. The report could be deemed so incendiary by some, whilst it is withheld, that they simply assume the worst. Making fears worse than they already are.
The report should be published but I will say that it may be better to wait until this current situation has passed. Holding this back is adding fuel to the fire of conspiracy theorists - not making them think 'nothing to see here'.

Red and Blue Army!

Which is precisely one of the suggested possible reasons I gave a while back.

Those who took this decision will understand very well that it will upset a lot of people, and lessen confidence, so there has to be an over-riding consideration as politically it will only be damaging.

I suspect it will be made available, together with details of the follow up actions, when it is deemed safe to do so.

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