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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 27 Dec 21 3.08pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Indeed, the number of articles and court time devoted to Robinson...who for whatever you think of him....is no physical threat and indeed is under actual death threats.....Compared to the amount of time and devotion placed onto real threats, which yearly turn into real ones is a damning indictment of the system.

Indeed, I think the allocation of funds within security services is a scandal and another example of pure criminal negligence by those who are highly paid to get these things right.

The focus on Robinson is an implied silent admittance that the stupidity of politicians and the naivety of egalitarianism has placed this country into a downgraded state where normal people have to worry about threats to life.....which could have been avoided had their elites actually cared about them.

So that anger is projected onto Robinson, when in reality a 'Robinson' was always going to emerge....because it's working people who can't move who have to deal with the consequences of the policies they have forced onto the country.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Dec 2021 1.44pm)

Very, very, well put.

But the issue of these Rape Gangs go way beyond the establishment just ignoring them. The political establishment, primarily on the Left, actually helped them. Buried in the reports are the reality of links between Labour Councillors and these gangs, of documents going missing from supposedly secure council safes and so on.

Labour effectively condoned what was happening in exchange for political power/expediency with links between multiple aspects of pakistani origin organised crime gangs to this day, including the heroin trade, the consequent money laundering, and varients of 'Carasouel' fraud, with both Scottish Labour and the SNP also up to their necks in this as well.

Part of me does wonder if the Grooming Gang scandal is being used to effectively cover up what are, on a wider level, far more heinous crimes in terms of the wider national impact?

Bringing us back to the demonisation of TR, offering a stark warning to anybody who might have the audacity to not just keep quiet about it all.

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Very, very, well put.

But the issue of these Rape Gangs go way beyond the establishment just ignoring them. The political establishment, primarily on the Left, actually helped them. Buried in the reports are the reality of links between Labour Councillors and these gangs, of documents going missing from supposedly secure council safes and so on.

Labour effectively condoned what was happening in exchange for political power/expediency with links between multiple aspects of pakistani origin organised crime gangs to this day, including the heroin trade, the consequent money laundering, and varients of 'Carasouel' fraud, with both Scottish Labour and the SNP also up to their necks in this as well.

Part of me does wonder if the Grooming Gang scandal is being used to effectively cover up what are, on a wider level, far more heinous crimes in terms of the wider national impact?

Bringing us back to the demonisation of TR, offering a stark warning to anybody who might have the audacity to not just keep quiet about it all.

I agree, I hope that one day it all comes out officially and that justice can properly come to those who have suffered the results of political disfigurement, appeasement and corruption.

But that won't happen while the people in control are a part of that same mindset, that same establishment that wants to minimise the real problems and instead magnify and demonise pretend monsters that they have themselves created.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree, I hope that one day it all comes out officially and that justice can properly come to those who have suffered the results of political disfigurement, appeasement and corruption.

There is zero chance of anything coming out 'officially', at least in terms of our current setup. The institutions of Government are the very bodies most opposed to the exposure of these grooming gangs in the first place.

We have a CPS who will happily refer to a nonce wearing a wig, with previous convictions for child abuse images, and now charged with shagging an Alsatian, as 'she' because that is what the piece of s***, who is a man, wants.

There is no positive outcome given how much the rot has set in.

 


In 1967, when Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take human life, replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed communists."

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Originally posted by Matov

There is zero chance of anything coming out 'officially', at least in terms of our current setup. The institutions of Government are the very bodies most opposed to the exposure of these grooming gangs in the first place.

We have a CPS who will happily refer to a nonce wearing a wig, with previous convictions for child abuse images, and now charged with shagging an Alsatian, as 'she' because that is what the piece of s***, who is a man, wants.

There is no positive outcome given how much the rot has set in.

The degenerates run the asylum.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 27 Dec 21 8.46pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Very, very, well put.

But the issue of these Rape Gangs go way beyond the establishment just ignoring them. The political establishment, primarily on the Left, actually helped them. Buried in the reports are the reality of links between Labour Councillors and these gangs, of documents going missing from supposedly secure council safes and so on.

Labour effectively condoned what was happening in exchange for political power/expediency with links between multiple aspects of pakistani origin organised crime gangs to this day, including the heroin trade, the consequent money laundering, and varients of 'Carasouel' fraud, with both Scottish Labour and the SNP also up to their necks in this as well.

Part of me does wonder if the Grooming Gang scandal is being used to effectively cover up what are, on a wider level, far more heinous crimes in terms of the wider national impact?

Bringing us back to the demonisation of TR, offering a stark warning to anybody who might have the audacity to not just keep quiet about it all.

Before commenting let me make it very plain, for the avoidance of any doubt and with the history of false allegations very much in mind, that I am NOT defending the criminals involved in the grooming gangs, who I believe need to be detected, prosecuted and punished with the utmost determination. Nor am I defending any individuals who have failed to do their duty.

I am aware that critical reports have been written but, although I have looked for any evidence which supports the assertions highlighted, I can find none at all. Do you have any?

I can though find some that support my instinct that they are typical conspiracy theories that catch fire on the internet and then spreads among right wing thinkers. Some are below:-

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Dec 21 12.57am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Philís Barber

That is not correct.

I havenít researched the others but know for a fact that Anjem Choudary is.

Edited by Philís Barber (27 Dec 2021 11.53am)

the islamist who stabbed the lady at Speakers Corner.....he never got convicted..nor caught.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 Dec 21 1.10am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Very, very, well put.

But the issue of these Rape Gangs go way beyond the establishment just ignoring them. The political establishment, primarily on the Left, actually helped them. Buried in the reports are the reality of links between Labour Councillors and these gangs, of documents going missing from supposedly secure council safes and so on.

Labour effectively condoned what was happening in exchange for political power/expediency with links between multiple aspects of pakistani origin organised crime gangs to this day, including the heroin trade, the consequent money laundering, and varients of 'Carasouel' fraud, with both Scottish Labour and the SNP also up to their necks in this as well.

Part of me does wonder if the Grooming Gang scandal is being used to effectively cover up what are, on a wider level, far more heinous crimes in terms of the wider national impact?

Bringing us back to the demonisation of TR, offering a stark warning to anybody who might have the audacity to not just keep quiet about it all.

you hit the nail on the head. The reason the Left are losing votes in the North over the last dozen years.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 28 Dec 21 5.09am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Before commenting let me make it very plain, for the avoidance of any doubt and with the history of false allegations very much in mind, that I am NOT defending the criminals involved in the grooming gangs, who I believe need to be detected, prosecuted and punished with the utmost determination. Nor am I defending any individuals who have failed to do their duty.

I am aware that critical reports have been written but, although I have looked for any evidence which supports the assertions highlighted, I can find none at all. Do you have any?

I can though find some that support my instinct that they are typical conspiracy theories that catch fire on the internet and then spreads among right wing thinkers. Some are below:-

[Link]

[Link]

Can you find any links to articles on the police refusing to investigate or believe the victims ; or are those ones just click bait.

Edited by cryrst (28 Dec 2021 5.11am)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 Dec 21 9.12am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The guy who pushed Russiagate for years complains that he can't find any evidence online for claims made related to grooming gangs.

In some ways he's the gift that keeps on giving.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Dec 21 9.44am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The guy who pushed Russiagate for years complains that he can't find any evidence online for claims made related to grooming gangs.

In some ways he's the gift that keeps on giving.

I didn't say that! What I said was that I cannot find any evidence which supports the specific assertions made in that post, and asked if the poster had.

So far none has been provided. Just the anticipated, and usual, diversionary mud slinging.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Dec 21 9.47am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Can you find any links to articles on the police refusing to investigate or believe the victims ; or are those ones just click bait.

Edited by cryrst (28 Dec 2021 5.11am)

I didn't look as they weren't the assertions in focus. It was the alleged, and very specific, political corruption that I was addressing.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 Dec 21 9.48am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The hypocrisy is so large....the supporters of WE should look at his comments here and then visit his posts on the 'bias against Trump' thread to just see how ridiculous this guy is.

 


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