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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 30 Dec 21 10.18pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

I've noticed that if you disagree with some very right wing values, you seem to be automatically called left wing and a Trot etc. without attempt to analyse the values or what is actually written.

What 'very right wing values' are you suggesting?
Is it a specific opinion or just specific poster(s)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 30 Dec 21 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

In terms of separation, that requires separate power structures.

In island nations like Britain that's far less likely to emerge....it happens indirectly as in economic balkanization...house price separatism, which as we know comes with an avalanche of expedient social hypocrites.

While I'm obviously talking with no certainty I'm not so sure that a coming economic collapse brings social conservativism back in terms of the UK.....in fact it probably worsens the situation but whole books could be written on the different possible outcomes of a breakdown.

However in the US, even now we know the fifty states are increasingly polarised into two ideologies that speak very divergent political languages.

There the divide into different government is....in my opinion...only a matter of time. Perhaps an economic collapse far greater than 2008 brings that about...The world debt problems are certainly going to affect parts of the US differently and that's going to add to the discord.

In terms of social conservatism, well that will exist in the US for some time...however, that is also true for Eastern Europe and perhaps Russia. At the moment the only elites who are socially conservative are in Eastern Europe....but they are just as corrupt as the western ones....just not as interested in betraying their own people.

Things will certainly become clearer the later we get into the decade.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2021 10.46pm)

 


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View Grumbles's Profile Grumbles 30 Dec 21 11.34pm Send a Private Message to Grumbles Add Grumbles as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

What 'very right wing values' are you suggesting?
Is it a specific opinion or just specific poster(s)

I am not so obsessed by a message board to record them all. You just need to to look, after all who is "them" that posters refer to?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 30 Dec 21 11.38pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by OldFella

My apologies. I had you marked down as already in the playground.

I do chuckle at your self righteousness and over-inflated sense of self though.

I am sure you do chuckle to yourself, regularly.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 Dec 21 9.24am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I couldn't let that pass without questioning it!

Just who, I wonder, identifies as being "left" here? I know I don't, and I don't read any posts that I think any reasonable person would regard as from a genuinely left wing position.

I read a few from those with a more balanced socially responsible position than the majority of posters, but "left"? None at all.

That there are repeated assertions of the type above is only support for my belief that the further to the right you are, the more you perceive almost everyone else as "left". So the question is not to those on the right, who believe this kind of claim, but to their targets. How do you identify yourself?

Most people are neither left, nor right. They are mostly moderate centralists with slight leanings one way or the other.

So the poster who wanted Corbyn for PM is not left wing? Well well

Edited by Spiderman (31 Dec 2021 9.26am)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 31 Dec 21 10.02am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So the poster who wanted Corbyn for PM is not left wing? Well well

Edited by Spiderman (31 Dec 2021 9.26am)

Where on earth do you get that idea from?

I never, ever, wanted Corbyn to be PM. I regarded him as a disaster for our country when the Labour Party committed suicide by choosing him as their leader. His weakness was, in my opinion, the primary reason that Brexit was allowed to happen. Without him our MPs would likely have stopped it. I know how unpopular that would have been with those who think a referendum result is sacrosanct, but for people like me, he is the enemy of democracy, and no hero.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 31 Dec 21 10.32am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Where on earth do you get that idea from?

I never, ever, wanted Corbyn to be PM. I regarded him as a disaster for our country when the Labour Party committed suicide by choosing him as their leader. His weakness was, in my opinion, the primary reason that Brexit was allowed to happen. Without him our MPs would likely have stopped it. I know how unpopular that would have been with those who think a referendum result is sacrosanct, but for people like me, he is the enemy of democracy, and no hero.

And he sort of supports terrorists.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 Dec 21 11.27am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Where on earth do you get that idea from?

I never, ever, wanted Corbyn to be PM. I regarded him as a disaster for our country when the Labour Party committed suicide by choosing him as their leader. His weakness was, in my opinion, the primary reason that Brexit was allowed to happen. Without him our MPs would likely have stopped it. I know how unpopular that would have been with those who think a referendum result is sacrosanct, but for people like me, he is the enemy of democracy, and no hero.

It wasnít aimed at you, maybe didnít come across properly. At lease I gave you an excuse to get Brexit mentioned again

Edited by Spiderman (31 Dec 2021 11.28am)

 

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View OldFella's Profile OldFella Flag London 31 Dec 21 5.56pm Send a Private Message to OldFella Add OldFella as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I am sure you do chuckle to yourself, regularly.

Broadly speaking, about as regularly as your inane postings appear.

 


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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 31 Dec 21 6.30pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by Grumbles

I've noticed that if you disagree with some very right wing values, you seem to be automatically called left wing and a Trot etc. without attempt to analyse the values or what is actually written.

Provide evidence of this please.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 31 Dec 21 7.34pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Provide evidence of this please.

There is none mate. Happy New year

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 20 Jan 22 10.59am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I am not a fan of Tommy Robinson

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He has declared he is bankrupt but his creditors suspect that he may be hiding his assets. Well that wouldn't surprise me lots of people do some of whom I have Known and it is wrong and criminal.

What does concern me is that charity Hope Not Hate is funding an insolvency expert to investigate his finances. I do not consider that ethical use of charitable status.

He has other creditors including HMRC surely it is up to them to pursue any monies owed.

Hope Not Hate should focus on what their charitable work.

Edited by Badger11 (20 Jan 2022 11.00am)

 


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