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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 08 Jan 18 5.40pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

With this, I agree but it still relates to attitudes that prevail among the hard of thinking.
By perpetuating this kind of thinking, everyone is making a rod for their own back. We need to move past this retrograde thinking.
This is people trying really hard to be offended by something that was not intended to offend.


That you cannot see how the original ad was offensive says a lot more about you than it does about society at large.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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View Mr_Gristle's Profile Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 08 Jan 18 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This really demonstrates the absurdity of pandering to tiny minds.
It beggars belief that a store has actually backed down and apologised for this.
Someone has to draw a line and say no further. Clearly, some don't understand that if you keep giving ground then you will be giving it forever. The store is more concerned about their short term sales.

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Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Jan 2018 4.49pm)

Having looked at the link, your comments say far more about you Hrolf than they do about pretty much anything else.

"If you keep giving ground, then you will be giving it forever?" Perhaps true and perhaps a valid statement to make about the current climate on this site.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (08 Jan 2018 5.42pm)

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jan 18 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


You have no clue (as usual). The modelling session and the copywriters who writer the ad are two completely divorced activities. There's no way the parents could have objected at the time; to them, their son was being photographed for an H&M catalog. It's only much, much later that some idiot decided to use a monkey reference for the ad.

And before you challenge my bona fides on this, my wife used to model for clothing catalogues, so I know from her stories how these things go. The models are treated like props, rushed in / rushed out, and have no say or even clue about how those photos will be used ultimately. Once they're paid for allowing their image to be taken, that image is no longer theirs - it belongs to whoever paid them for it.

Well you don't know the circumstances of this particular exercise any more than I do. Kid models are a little different to adults.

Irrespective of that. The point is that we can't continue to make various animals, objects or any other miscellaneous thing 'sensitive' just because a small group with a noisy lobby decide to get 'offended'.
That offends me.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jan 18 5.45pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Having looked at the link, your comments say far more about you Hrolf than they do about pretty much anything else.

"If you keep giving ground, then you will be giving it forever?" Perhaps true and perhaps a valid statement to make about the current climate on this site.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (08 Jan 2018 5.42pm)

Perhaps you could explain further.

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 08 Jan 18 5.48pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Dare not say anything or it'll either be deleted or I'll be carded. Welcome to the brave new world.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jan 18 5.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston


That you cannot see how the original ad was offensive says a lot more about you than it does about society at large.

I know what it is all about Ray, but I have grown up.
Relating people to animals is the stuff of the school playground. I can't believe adults on either side of this discussion have the time or inclination to give a s***. That is the point I am making.
I am actually disappointed with myself for wasting time posting a thread about it. The whole thing is pathetic.

 

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View regal_eagle's Profile regal_eagle Flag somewhere 08 Jan 18 5.52pm Send a Private Message to regal_eagle Add regal_eagle as a friend

Who's a cheeky monkey?!

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 08 Jan 18 7.33pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

Dare not say anything or it'll either be deleted or I'll be carded. Welcome to the brave new world.

Ha, this is seriously weird on here at the moment.

 

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Originally posted by Ray in Houston


How about not using the word "monkey" to describe anything that isn't a monkey?

Stop making a monkey of yourself.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Jan 18 7.57pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

I fail to understand how these marketing whizzes earn such absolutely ridiculous salaries. I would also think that this had to be approved by various layers of management. That said if the model had been a cute white kid I doubt very much if this would of been brought to notice unless the white kid had been wearing a hoody with 'What a little Cracker' on it.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jan 18 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

I fail to understand how these marketing whizzes earn such absolutely ridiculous salaries. I would also think that this had to be approved by various layers of management. That said if the model had been a cute white kid I doubt very much if this would of been brought to notice unless the white kid had been wearing a hoody with 'What a little Cracker' on it.

Let's be honest. No white person would care if it had said Honkey mutherfujer. I laugh at myself all the time. It's so much better and more liberating than being so uptight and taking offence at everything.

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 08 Jan 18 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Well you don't know the circumstances of this particular exercise any more than I do. Kid models are a little different to adults.

Irrespective of that. The point is that we can't continue to make various animals, objects or any other miscellaneous thing 'sensitive' just because a small group with a noisy lobby decide to get 'offended'.
That offends me.


My wife was a kid model when she modelled, so I know more than you.

And give over on the "we're making animals sensitive" bollocks. This was an add that called a black child a monkey - that's offensive on its face. Had the ad referred to him as a kitten at play, there's no issue.

And it wasn't a progressive society that put "monkey" off limits when trying to describe - playfully - a black child; it was every racist everywhere who - still to this day - use the word, make monkey noises and throw bananas at people of colour. They f***ed it for you, not progressives.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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