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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Jun 18 9.30am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

I have no idea what a diversity tourist is, this site seems to have become full of some kind of nasty shorthand to label everyone.

I live in Croydon and am surrounded by many races but it's true I have also worked overseas extensively. I enjoy the variety of people with whom I have worked and played. I feel sorry for anyone that can't. I like and admire white people and black people and all those in between. I like being English and also like being a part of Europe. I also enjoy being male, although I try not to let my testosterone get the better of me.

IQ tests adjudge Africans to be at only 80% of the average, that is not my experience and for many academic reasons (it was a major area of my Degree and one of my post Graduate qualifications) I don't trust them.

My original point seems unanswered, why accuse someone of moving away to get away from Black people? Why on earth would that be a prime rationale for a move? I can only assume there must be some people on here that genuinely would do that.

If I want to post on the BBS I shall do so. If I want to post on here I shall do so. How dare both of you keep telling me to leave the HOL for BBS. I am amazed you get away with that, not in Guntri's interests surely. I am sorry you find the BBS unwelcoming to your views, maybe if you were slightly more glass half full you would find it more inviting. I think your monomaniacal views get jading in the end.

Oh, and by the way I don't buy in to your conspiracy theory on Stephen. The judiciary in the UK is established as independent of the State. It does hate people breaking the rules though. And especially when that could jeopardize some potentially very nasty people getting a fair trial, with the possibility they would end up getting off on a technicality. Or maybe that was Stephen's intention to increase the sense of outrage.

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 05 Jun 18 10.11am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

That is why I rarely post on this site any more. It is incredibly unwelcoming and a Daily Mail fest of vitriol.

We need a snowflake smiley!

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Jun 18 10.18am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Some of my more depressing experiences in life have been where there are only pale, male and stale people. That is why I rarely post on this site any more. It is incredibly unwelcoming and a Daily Mail fest of vitriol.

Please don't condemn the whole site with the behaviour exhibited by a small number in the News & Politics section.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Jun 18 10.59am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Please don't condemn the whole site with the behaviour exhibited by a small number in the News & Politics section.

Yup, point taken

Apparently I am a snowflake.

Again, I don't really know what that means and how it should be defined but I guess it's shorthand for I don't like your views and I am going to find a simple label to demean you.

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 05 Jun 18 11.30am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yup, point taken

Apparently I am a snowflake.

Again, I don't really know what that means and how it should be defined but I guess it's shorthand for I don't like your views and I am going to find a simple label to demean you.

You can demean people on this website, yet I can't demean you?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Jun 18 11.54am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

You can demean people on this website, yet I can't demean you?

I do not set out to demean. I do however react to what I consider unfairness.

As the editor of holmesdale.net, do you speak on behalf of the HOL management?

 

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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 05 Jun 18 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I do not set out to demean. I do however react to what I consider unfairness.

As the editor of holmesdale.net, do you speak on behalf of the HOL management?

Yeah I'm the co-founder.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jun 18 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I have no idea what a diversity tourist is, this site seems to have become full of some kind of nasty shorthand to label everyone.

I live in Croydon and am surrounded by many races but it's true I have also worked overseas extensively. I enjoy the variety of people with whom I have worked and played. I feel sorry for anyone that can't. I like and admire white people and black people and all those in between. I like being English and also like being a part of Europe. I also enjoy being male, although I try not to let my testosterone get the better of me.

If you genuinely live in Croydon then this doesn't apply to you.

As for your testosterone levels. Somehow I don't think it's a problem.

Originally posted by Mapletree

IQ tests adjudge Africans to be at only 80% of the average, that is not my experience and for many academic reasons (it was a major area of my Degree and one of my post Graduate qualifications) I don't trust them.

I seriously view you as being disingenuous here. You say you are a HR manager. I'm willing to bet my house that, in a situation, where you had to choose between employing two sets of people where one had an average IQ of 100 and the other had an average IQ of 80 that you would always choose the 100 group.

Of course it makes a difference and says quite a lot about intellectual ability. Unless of course that those guys at Mensa are just a bit dim and you....well you have the inside track. I just don't think this is honest.....I don't think you'd have your job for very long.

You don't trust them....yet the evidence is there that you can track an average of people's IQ scores to their income levels to a reasonable degree.

Now having said this....I don't think that a person's IQ is a reflection of someone's character and general worth as a human being. As a schoolteacher, some of the most rewarding experiences I had were helping some of the hardest triers who might have lacked the quickness of others but were better people as teenagers.

You treat as you find.


Originally posted by Mapletree

My original point seems unanswered, why accuse someone of moving away to get away from Black people? Why on earth would that be a prime rationale for a move? I can only assume there must be some people on here that genuinely would do that.

Because of the hypocrisy. White flight from London is real. When you look at the reality of it....there is what people say and then there is what people do.

Now I have no criticism for people moving out of London. My family moved out of Brixton for the same reason. However, when they profess a love for diversity from their mostly white areas it's worthy of comment.

You can play innocent.


Originally posted by Mapletree

If I want to post on the BBS I shall do so. If I want to post on here I shall do so. How dare both of you keep telling me to leave the HOL for BBS. I am amazed you get away with that, not in Guntri's interests surely. I am sorry you find the BBS unwelcoming to your views, maybe if you were slightly more glass half full you would find it more inviting. I think your monomaniacal views get jading in the end.

You are amazed that I get 'away with that'? That's what is truly amazing. I wasn't aware that a viewpoint is 'forcing' you in any way. Again, this is your victimhood narrative playing out.

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh, and by the way I don't buy in to your conspiracy theory on Stephen. The judiciary in the UK is established as independent of the State. It does hate people breaking the rules though. And especially when that could jeopardize some potentially very nasty people getting a fair trial, with the possibility they would end up getting off on a technicality. Or maybe that was Stephen's intention to increase the sense of outrage.

The view that what Robinson was doing was going to 'jeopardise' a fair trial is nonsense. He should have simply been moved on from the grounds and given a warning first. Groups of people and journalists have gathered and in some cases protested outside trials for years.

The view that Robinson wants to be inside is also risible in my view. His life is in danger. Typical of the mob set against him.


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 05 Jun 18 2.08pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yup, point taken

Apparently I am a snowflake.

Again, I don't really know what that means and how it should be defined but I guess it's shorthand for I don't like your views and I am going to find a simple label to demean you.

Just got them back with a “Gammon” retort. They’ll love that.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 05 Jun 18 2.14pm

To all the people who truly belive the Tommeh’s life is in danger. Don’t be daft. He’ll be straight off to the protection wing, like his mate Leigh McMillan.

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The judge didnt want the jury to be influenced by a media circus, so put an order in to stop the media making a song and dance about it until the case had finished...Tony Robinson tried to create a massive song and dance about it and was chasing suspects outside the court when he was serving a suspension order for doing exactly that...

He is an idiot who knew he was breaking the law and on suspension for doing the same thing. Idealogigy and politics is a moot point at best...

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jun 18 3.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

The judge didnt want the jury to be influenced by a media circus, so put an order in to stop the media making a song and dance about it until the case had finished...Tony Robinson tried to create a massive song and dance about it and was chasing suspects outside the court when he was serving a suspension order for doing exactly that...

He is an idiot who knew he was breaking the law and on suspension for doing the same thing. Idealogigy and politics is a moot point at best...

None of that required an arrest. None of that required 13 months......it is totally ridiculous. We have serious crimes given far less.

Why is this trial being kept quiet in the first place? We have Police informing the BBC when turning up at Cliff Richard's gaff even before a trial.

We have Police making public announcement for 'victims' to come forward.....all of that can be observed by potential jurors. We have also had people outside law courts jeering at people for donkey's years.

I know double standards when I hear them.

 


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