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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Oct 18 5.35pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Perhaps in the old days.....not with today's numbers. Sterilization.....is the elephant in the room. The problem is that the people that need sterilisation are the poorest and most populous. That would be seen as some sort of ethnic cleansing by some. The reality is that it just might save humanity from total disaster. The alternative is to do nothing based on a 'moral' choice and see the poorest and most populous suffer the most. Which is worse? It would be, of course, be very desperate measures for very desperate times. No one wants to remove a persons ability to have children lightly, but it can't wait till we have 20 billion on the planet.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps in the old days.....not with today's numbers.

Sterilization.....is the elephant in the room.

The problem is that the people that need sterilisation are the poorest and most populous. That would be seen as some sort of ethnic cleansing by some. The reality is that it just might save humanity from total disaster. The alternative is to do nothing based on a 'moral' choice and see the poorest and most populous suffer the most. Which is worse?

It would be, of course, be very desperate measures for very desperate times. No one wants to remove a persons ability to have children lightly, but it can't wait till we have 20 billion on the planet.

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steeleye20 Croydon 03 Oct 18 5.36pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than .50 a day. So much for capitalism........... Thanks for the replies to my post above. Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ? Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived.
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Croydon 03 Oct 18 5.36pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Almost half the world — over three billion people — live on less than .50 a day.

So much for capitalism...........

Thanks for the replies to my post above.

Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ?

Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived.

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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Oct 18 5.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Thanks for the replies to my post above. Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ? Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived. Thank you John Lennon.
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Hrolf The Ganger

03 Oct 18 5.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Thanks for the replies to my post above.

Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ?

Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived.

Thank you John Lennon.

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.TUX. 03 Oct 18 6.31pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Thanks for the replies to my post above. Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ? Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived. Agreed, but that's not the game. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

03 Oct 18 6.31pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Thanks for the replies to my post above.

Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ?

Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived.

Agreed, but that's not the game.

Buy Litecoin.

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Stirlingsays 03 Oct 18 6.47pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Thanks for the replies to my post above. Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ? Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived. Too much inequality is a problem with capitalism. However, communism doesn't work and has a far larger pile of bones next to it than any other system. There's a reason that the Soviets had to build a wall around East Berlin.....it was to stop people fleeing to the capitalist west. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 Oct 18 6.47pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Thanks for the replies to my post above.

Why can't we do something about this, set up some international body to distribute money to the poor of the World ?

Because we have capitalism, that's why, it could never even be conceived.

Too much inequality is a problem with capitalism.

However, communism doesn't work and has a far larger pile of bones next to it than any other system.

There's a reason that the Soviets had to build a wall around East Berlin.....it was to stop people fleeing to the capitalist west.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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.TUX. 03 Oct 18 7.53pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Too much inequality is a problem with capitalism. However, communism doesn't work and has a far larger pile of bones next to it than any other system. There's a reason that the Soviets had to build a wall around East Berlin.....it was to stop people fleeing to the capitalist west. Neither are perfect but the Capitalists are well ahead in 'bone-count' methinks (needless wars etc etc). Capitalism only works because it makes the majority believe that they are doing well in comparison when in fact they really aren't. Buy Litecoin.
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03 Oct 18 7.53pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Too much inequality is a problem with capitalism.

However, communism doesn't work and has a far larger pile of bones next to it than any other system.

There's a reason that the Soviets had to build a wall around East Berlin.....it was to stop people fleeing to the capitalist west.

Neither are perfect but the Capitalists are well ahead in 'bone-count' methinks (needless wars etc etc).
Capitalism only works because it makes the majority believe that they are doing well in comparison when in fact they really aren't.

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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Oct 18 8.49pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Neither are perfect but the Capitalists are well ahead in 'bone-count' methinks (needless wars etc etc). Capitalism only works because it makes the majority believe that they are doing well in comparison when in fact they really aren't. Hmmm. But such a number must be weighed against the people kept alive or born at all. I'd say that capitalism in one form or another has created civilization as we know it. We know that communism does not make everyone equal and leads to stagnation.
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03 Oct 18 8.49pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Neither are perfect but the Capitalists are well ahead in 'bone-count' methinks (needless wars etc etc).
Capitalism only works because it makes the majority believe that they are doing well in comparison when in fact they really aren't.

Hmmm. But such a number must be weighed against the people kept alive or born at all. I'd say that capitalism in one form or another has created civilization as we know it. We know that communism does not make everyone equal and leads to stagnation.

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cryrst The garden of England 03 Oct 18 8.50pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The problem is that the people that need sterilisation are the poorest and most populous. That would be seen as some sort of ethnic cleansing by some. The reality is that it just might save humanity from total disaster. The alternative is to do nothing based on a 'moral' choice and see the poorest and most populous suffer the most. Which is worse? It would be, of course, be very desperate measures for very desperate times. No one wants to remove a persons ability to have children lightly, but it can't wait till we have 20 billion on the planet. Is it really incomprehensible that people do not understand how babies are made. There is birth control available im sure. Its not my fault that they are stupid and keep having sprogs. Ffs a huge majority of people in capitalist countries understand this and populate in relation to their position financially and socially. Yes there are some that use a baby as a weekly wage but minimal in the bigger picture. So to sum up capitalism helps keep populations down. I think that puts eye20 to bed.
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The garden of England 03 Oct 18 8.50pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Is it really incomprehensible that people do not understand how babies are made. There is birth control available im sure.
Its not my fault that they are stupid and keep having sprogs.
Ffs a huge majority of people in capitalist countries understand this and populate in relation to their position financially and socially. Yes there are some that use a baby as a weekly wage but minimal in the bigger picture.
So to sum up capitalism helps keep populations down.
I think that puts eye20 to bed.

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johnno42000 03 Oct 18 9.03pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Unfortunately, human progress will mean the end of planet Earth as we know it. We cannot have 9 billion wealthy consumers. 20 billion poor Asians and African will Eat up the planet's resources, including Europe's, like a raging fire within 200 years unless we act to control population size and spread. Being poor will be the least of our problems. Tbf I think we in the West have done pretty well using up the planets resources. I do get your point perhaps the Asian and African poor think it's their turn? 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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03 Oct 18 9.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Unfortunately, human progress will mean the end of planet Earth as we know it. We cannot have 9 billion wealthy consumers. 20 billion poor Asians and African will Eat up the planet's resources, including Europe's, like a raging fire within 200 years unless we act to control population size and spread. Being poor will be the least of our problems.

Tbf I think we in the West have done pretty well using up the planets resources. I do get your point perhaps the Asian and African poor think it's their turn?

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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.TUX. 03 Oct 18 9.03pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Hmmm. But such a number must be weighed against the people kept alive or born at all. I'd say that capitalism in one form or another has created civilization as we know it. We know that communism does not make everyone equal and leads to stagnation. Capitalism is no different as it also only benefits the few along with hindering progress for all for the sake of these very same vested interests. I'll say again, Capitalism only works because it makes the majority believe* that they are doing well in comparison when in fact they really aren't.* Buy Litecoin.
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03 Oct 18 9.03pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Hmmm. But such a number must be weighed against the people kept alive or born at all. I'd say that capitalism in one form or another has created civilization as we know it. We know that communism does not make everyone equal and leads to stagnation.

Capitalism is no different as it also only benefits the few along with hindering progress for all for the sake of these very same vested interests.
I'll say again, Capitalism only works because it makes the majority believe that they are doing well in comparison when in fact they really aren't.

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.TUX. 03 Oct 18 9.05pm
Originally posted by cryrst Is it really incomprehensible that people do not understand how babies are made. There is birth control available im sure. Its not my fault that they are stupid and keep having sprogs. Ffs a huge majority of people in capitalist countries understand this and populate in relation to their position financially and socially. Yes there are some that use a baby as a weekly wage but minimal in the bigger picture. So to sum up capitalism helps keep populations down. I think that puts eye20 to bed. As well as wages for 90% of us. Buy Litecoin.
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.TUX.

03 Oct 18 9.05pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Is it really incomprehensible that people do not understand how babies are made. There is birth control available im sure.
Its not my fault that they are stupid and keep having sprogs.
Ffs a huge majority of people in capitalist countries understand this and populate in relation to their position financially and socially. Yes there are some that use a baby as a weekly wage but minimal in the bigger picture.
So to sum up capitalism helps keep populations down.
I think that puts eye20 to bed.

As well as wages for 90% of us.

Buy Litecoin.

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steeleye20 Croydon 03 Oct 18 9.21pm
Education and taking people out of poverty leads to less increase in births, not more. There is only one system really out there namely capitalism and it is failing half the world it seems. Why can't capitalism have a human charitable face what is it's purpose but greed.
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Croydon 03 Oct 18 9.21pm

Education and taking people out of poverty leads to less increase in births, not more.

There is only one system really out there namely capitalism and it is failing half the world it seems.

Why can't capitalism have a human charitable face what is it's purpose but greed.

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