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View eaglesdare's Profile eaglesdare Flag 11 Oct 18 2.35pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Who cares?

Same thing happens if you live in rented accomodation even if you have lived there for years and its your home the landord can kick you out with notice.

No room for sentiment here! better things to be worrying about!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 11 Oct 18 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I have sympathy for the long standing seat holders.

They have essentially been told they are second class because of pressure from a particular set of fans.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Oct 2018 3.10pm)

 

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 11 Oct 18 3.00pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Who cares?

Same thing happens if you live in rented accomodation even if you have lived there for years and its your home the landord can kick you out with notice.

No room for sentiment here! better things to be worrying about!

Ridiculous comparison.

Itís almost as if youíre suggesting that there arenít a great deal of people utterly opposed to insecure tenancies.

And as for your idea of no room for sentiment. I think when it comes to long serving fans of your football club, you know the people who, without, you wouldnít have one? Sentiment is actually a very pertinent thing.

If it werenít, Parish wouldnít be seeking to accommodate a group of people based on how loud they sing over others. If the ďno sentimentĒ argument held any weight, the HF would rightly be told to grow up and get over themselves.

Edited by Mstrobez (11 Oct 2018 3.13pm)

 


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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 11 Oct 18 3.03pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by laddo

What I don't get is why the older generation think they have more rights than anyone else. Nobody is ejecting you from selhurst, you're being asked to move seats.

People talk about the millennial generation but if brexit has taught us anything, it's that it's the young who are willing to move things forward. I can understand the frustration at the inconvenience but my god, it's a massive over reaction.

Iím 24. Please donít talk on young peopleís behalf when you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim that this is a generational divide.

The way the HF have acted is embarrassing. The way the club are pandering to them and advocating their superiority over other Palace fans is pathetic & spineless.

Itís not a case of being old or young whatsoever in arriving at this conclusion.

Edited by Mstrobez (11 Oct 2018 3.07pm)

 


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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 11 Oct 18 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

This debate has been done to death. And people seem very fixated on their particular side. Iím done trying to convince people who honestly find it acceptable to remove people from their seats on the basis of their singing volume.

But now for people to suggest Block E should have to just deal with whatever scrapings Parish can be arsed with, just to suit their own personal position is ridiculous.

I smell trouble on the way. A sufficient amount of people arenít gonna stand for this to a point that will have the potential to cause a lot more problems than a group of people not turning up to sing.

The only difference is. Some of us will turn out to support the club regardless of how disillusioned we are with the way it operates - itís called supporting.

Edited by Mstrobez (11 Oct 2018 3.16pm)

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell 11 Oct 18 3.37pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Not sure if this has been posted or how old it is . .

[Link]

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Oct 18 3.50pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Not sure if this has been posted or how old it is . .

A couple of interesting points in that article:-

Quote "Forget the HF not being there, there's a trepidation at Selhurst Park that worries me sometimes.

"Sometimes I think it is like the ring in the Lord of the Rings; it becomes this thing that starts to dominate you more than you are enjoying it.

The above is self explanatory but the next quote is interesting semantically:-

Quote would love the next time at Selhurst Park to really feel that sense of togetherness and not withstanding some guys are going to have to make a sacrifice for us

To be correct Mr P should have said that "not withstanding some guys are going to be sacrificed for us"

 

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View Palace in the Blood's Profile Palace in the Blood Flag 11 Oct 18 4.18pm Send a Private Message to Palace in the Blood Add Palace in the Blood as a friend

SP is in for a shock if people have bought their season tickets for an advance period then it is extremely difficult to move them as they have a contract. He can offer to buy out the contract but if contract holder refuses then he has to honour that contract.

"eaglesdare" unbeknowing makes a valid point even though he is legally incorrect

Same thing happens if you live in rented accomodation even if you have lived there for years and its your home the landord can kick you out with notice. Bit in bold is incorrect.

It depends on tenancy but most these days are short hold assured. This means contract (tenancy) is valid for a period and that contract can not be broken (other than if tenancy rules are broken and that needs a judge) Before the end of that period a landlord (and technically the tenant) has to give notice as defined by tenancy.

In a similar way the seat contract has a defined period. I am unaware of small print on the season ticket contract on renewal of same seat but Custom and practice is that people renew same seats for extended periods. This has been going on for so long (status quo) it may be argued that this is now implied and thus part of contract.

If people effected are unhappy with way club is dealing it may be advisable to get legal advice

Edited by Palace in the Blood (11 Oct 2018 4.19pm)

 

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View steven_t92's Profile steven_t92 Flag Orpington 11 Oct 18 4.19pm Send a Private Message to steven_t92 Add steven_t92 as a friend

I'm 26, totally disagree on the club doing this to anyone, regardless of their age or how long they have held the seat for. They have no plan of how to move people about and the fact they haven't even decided who is taking the seats (blatantly the scum HF) shows how bad this is going to go. What do the current block E residents do if they had been excitedly been waiting to be part of the singing section but they're going to be told to move anyway?

I can sense something big kicking off soon, whether it be in the stands or outside the ground....

 

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View BorgeThorup's Profile BorgeThorup Flag 11 Oct 18 5.16pm Send a Private Message to BorgeThorup Add BorgeThorup as a friend

This will be hugely unpopular for anyone seated at the back rows of lower holmesdale, I hope the club are giving big incentive to move, even then it will upset lots of people.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 11 Oct 18 5.24pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Not sure if this has been posted or how old it is . .

[Link]

The article is dated today 11/10/18.

Love the quote from SP "and not withstanding some guys are going to have to make a sacrifice for us"

... does he not know that there's a good number of 'gals' in there too?

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Oct 18 5.28pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Love the quote from SP "and not withstanding some guys are going to have to make a sacrifice for us"

... does he not know that there's a good number of 'gals' in there too?

I think that's more to do with the creeping Americanisation of the English language rather than sexism.

I blame Friends

 

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