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 Midlands Eagle  08 Dec 22 6.51am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Does that include Rwanda? If not surely anyone arriving by plane without documents could be automatically sent to Rwanda
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| Spiderman Horsham 08 Dec 22 9.21am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Does that include Rwanda? If not surely anyone arriving by plane without documents could be automatically sent to Rwanda I am not sure how his was proposed to work but suspect special arrangements were in place. With the amount Rwanda were to receive I am sure they would not be too insistent Edited by Spiderman (08 Dec 2022 9.21am)
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 08 Dec 22 11.35am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
They don’t board without papers. I don’t know how many times I have to say this: You cannot remove people without a valid travel document, if you don’t know who they are or their nationality, they cannot be issued with one. No country will accept a person without a document even if it is proved where they have travelled from…. this is fact. Head. Banging. Brickwall spring to mind Spider?
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 08 Dec 22 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Most people claiming asylum arrive without documents or evidence of where they have come from. Most do not arrive from their home country, indeed the vast majority arrive via an EU country. I have “examined” many a document found mutilated in toilets either airside or on aircraft. Or the passports used to board are taken by the facilitator. I understand the problem, but wonder if there is a solution lurking in the background. Obviously, returning them to anywhere they have just transited through is not going to work, as, even if it is a safe country, they will dig their heels in. It's their country of origin only that ought to be responsible. With the advanced biometrics now available, it ought to be possible to set up a system whereby everyone arriving from countries of concern can be identified and documented from information acquired pre-boarding. If that documentation can be established by us, with the international community, as sufficient to represent authentic travel documents, then our options improve. It's getting such a principle established that would be the big hurdle.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 08 Dec 22 11.51am |
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So ideally we need to check everyone is documented before boarding their mode of transport and copies taken, if they then claim no docs we access the copies held by the transport carrier. At the moment anyone who chooses to do so can arrive and be looked after for years and never deported
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Teddy Eagle Online  08 Dec 22 12.04pm |
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 08 Dec 22 4.13pm |
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''oh , help me i am being persecuted and threatened back in my home country'' Fella gets accepted here & given help & a home. 6 months later.....fella goes on holiday, 2 weeks. Back to country x. We have already seen a lot of this.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 08 Dec 22 4.27pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
''oh , help me i am being persecuted and threatened back in my home country'' Fella gets accepted here & given help & a home. 6 months later.....fella goes on holiday, 2 weeks. Back to country x. We have already seen a lot of this. Yep. Ironic isn’t it and we are stupid enough to accept the situation.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Dec 22 3.54pm |
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From the BBC "Labour pledges to fast-track Albania asylum claims"
"Approved, sound of stamp hitting paper" Edited by Badger11 (09 Dec 2022 3.55pm)
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| Spiderman Horsham 09 Dec 22 6.57pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
''oh , help me i am being persecuted and threatened back in my home country'' Fella gets accepted here & given help & a home. 6 months later.....fella goes on holiday, 2 weeks. Back to country x. We have already seen a lot of this. Yep but only when they have secured a national passport. Travel Documents issued by HO exclude travel to own country. Doesn’t stop them having both
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| Spiderman Horsham 09 Dec 22 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
From the BBC "Labour pledges to fast-track Albania asylum claims"
"Approved, sound of stamp hitting paper" Edited by Badger11 (09 Dec 2022 3.55pm) It has been happening for years. It’s called “hitting targets” set by Senior Civil Servants who are only interested in promotion and bonuses
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Dec 22 3.32pm |
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Apparently the Charity Commission and the GLA are now investigating how Sistah Space spends its money. Unfounded accusations by racist and sexist people no doubt.
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