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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 17 Sep 19 10.54am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

Can't be arsed to look for Mapletee's original wildly sweeping, ignorant and insulting post about the implications of a father bringing up a daughter.

My wife of 12 years died 5 years ago, and left me with our two Girls they were 7 and 5 back then. My job means I'm away fairly regularly, so not there as much as I would've liked, but both are doing well at school, but more relevant is that neither has run away and joined Islamic State.

Dick.

You sound like a father doing his duty in genuinely difficult circumstances and I tip my hat to you.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Sep 19 11.08am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

It is a stupid and old fashioned idealistic piece of tired claptrap. There are plenty of kids in this country who are fostered, and encounter hostile environments, and sometimes experience abuse form those that are supposed to protect them.

However they do not all run away and join IS. Your comment is fundamentally flawed and very ignorant.

You have failed to read the thread and failed to read this case

Clearly you feel passionately. That is no excuse for jumping to conclusions

The point was made as a response to a statement that the girl’s parents will have taught her right and wrong. However the father was living permanently in a different country.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Online Flag hove actually 17 Sep 19 11.09am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

I don't have any expertise in this area, but it seems to me that we should not make this someone else's problem.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Sep 19 11.20am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Her mother died. Her father, with whom she was not living, had to take over her upbringing. I doubt he understood Or communicated with her well

OK, as a Muslim female she would have been in the close care of adult family members, unless of course you know otherwise.
Before you question why I mention she was Muslim, I have lived and worked in a predominantly Muslim Country and have many friends of that faith and know how protective they are of children (although at times the females are treated differently to the males)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Sep 19 11.25am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I know, but they require someone to actually be watching.

Of course and you they think no-one is? Why do you think passports are scanned at Border Control? It is not, contrary to popular belief, to see if you have outstanding parking fines

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Sep 19 11.29am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

Can't be arsed to look for Mapletee's original wildly sweeping, ignorant and insulting post about the implications of a father bringing up a daughter.

My wife of 12 years died 5 years ago, and left me with our two Girls they were 7 and 5 back then. My job means I'm away fairly regularly, so not there as much as I would've liked, but both are doing well at school, but more relevant is that neither has run away and joined Islamic State.

Dick.

Glad to hear your girls are doing well, you deserve a lot of credit and I sincerely hope your futures are bright.
It wouldn't surprise me if Mapletree has worked for Social Services, it seems he has worked nearly everywhere else

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Sep 19 6.23pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

OK, as a Muslim female she would have been in the close care of adult family members, unless of course you know otherwise.
Before you question why I mention she was Muslim, I have lived and worked in a predominantly Muslim Country and have many friends of that faith and know how protective they are of children (although at times the females are treated differently to the males)

As you know, I too have lived and worked in multiple Muslim countries

Your specific point, to which I replied, was that her parents would have taught her. I noted that doesn’t take into account her real situation. She lost her mother and her father only travels to the UK occasionally having remarried.

I can find nothing about how she was cared for after her mother died.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Sep 19 7.43pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

As you know, I too have lived and worked in multiple Muslim countries

Your specific point, to which I replied, was that her parents would have taught her. I noted that doesn’t take into account her real situation. She lost her mother and her father only travels to the UK occasionally having remarried.

I can find nothing about how she was cared for after her mother died.

Perhaps this will be useful for you:

Sharmeena Begum was born to Shahnaz Begum and Mohammad Uddin. She was raised by her mother until her father joined them in the UK in 2007. Begum's mother died, suddenly, of cancer, in January 2014. Her father remarried in September 2014, and Begum left for Syria in December 2014

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Sep 19 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Perhaps this will be useful for you:

Sharmeena Begum was born to Shahnaz Begum and Mohammad Uddin. She was raised by her mother until her father joined them in the UK in 2007. Begum's mother died, suddenly, of cancer, in January 2014. Her father remarried in September 2014, and Begum left for Syria in December 2014

Thank you. Yes, it helps a great deal.

It is uncanny how similar her life experiences were to those of Shamima Begum. Shamima’s father is called Ahmed Ali by the way

It was originally thought Shamima went to Syria to find Sharmeena although they weren’t related. I thought Sharmeena had died though.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 17 Sep 19 10.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Thank you. Yes, it helps a great deal.

It is uncanny how similar her life experiences were to those of Shamima Begum. Shamima’s father is called Ahmed Ali by the way

It was originally thought Shamima went to Syria to find Sharmeena although they weren’t related. I thought Sharmeena had died though.

It's like frigging Islamic 'this is your life' with Michael 'Maple' Aspel.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 17 Sep 19 10.54pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Maybe we should bring her back, then send her away again the very next day just to give the story renewed momentum.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Sep 19 12.57am Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Dannyh.V2

It is a stupid and old fashioned idealistic piece of tired claptrap. There are plenty of kids in this country who are fostered, and encounter hostile environments, and sometimes experience abuse form those that are supposed to protect them.

However they do not all run away and join IS. Your comment is fundamentally flawed and very ignorant.


The most sensible post I've read on this matter.

 


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