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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 05 Mar 19 2.37pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'We cannot 'just magic' police officers'.

Really how did the Home Secretary and now PM make 20% of police officers disappear wasn't that by magic?

A meaningful presence on the beat and especially at youth level are essentials that Tony and Gordon understood and 'tough on crime and its causes. was a successful policy by labour.

But the tories just can't stand that, for them austerity, saving money, are an end in itself.

We are seeing the the results now after years of not listening to the police themselves.

We need to re-open and improve on the youth centres that have closed and prohibit the carrying of knives, we managed it with guns.

But the meaningful presence of police officers on the beat is something beyond value, even in Croydon High St the sight of a police officer is as rare as an osprey.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 05 Mar 19 3.13pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The Black 'community' told us that mistrusting them was wrong and the police should stop searching them for no reason.

Now their youth are slaughtering each other.

This is what happens when you put politics first and public safety last.

f***ing spot on. The elite's fear of being called racist had led to policy which had cost lives.

Madness

 

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View Pussay Patrol's Profile Pussay Patrol Flag 05 Mar 19 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Pussay Patrol Add Pussay Patrol as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'We cannot 'just magic' police officers'.

Really how did the Home Secretary and now PM make 20% of police officers disappear wasn't that by magic?

A meaningful presence on the beat and especially at youth level are essentials that Tony and Gordon understood and 'tough on crime and its causes. was a successful policy by labour.

But the tories just can't stand that, for them austerity, saving money, are an end in itself.

We are seeing the the results now after years of not listening to the police themselves.

We need to re-open and improve on the youth centres that have closed and prohibit the carrying of knives, we managed it with guns.

But the meaningful presence of police officers on the beat is something beyond value, even in Croydon High St the sight of a police officer is as rare as an osprey.

I think the tories have been very clever, hoodwinked the public into thinking the EU and immigration was to blame for all our ills so they could mug us off and slash our services, just a shame too many narrow minded people are conned by it. Police, schools and NHS creaking under chronic underfunding and millions trapped in poverty. Now the country is fast descending into a war zone but how bad does it need to get?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag Wisbech, England 05 Mar 19 3.33pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

f***ing spot on. The elite's fear of being called racist had led to policy which had cost lives.

Madness


Yep and all entirely the fault of the left and their ideology.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Mar 19 3.36pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I think the tories have been very clever, hoodwinked the public into thinking the EU and immigration was to blame for all our ills so they could mug us off and slash our services, just a shame too many narrow minded people are conned by it. Police, schools and NHS creaking under chronic underfunding and millions trapped in poverty. Now the country is fast descending into a war zone but how bad does it need to get?

I would think that funding cuts and cuts in police numbers have caused a rise in violent crime. However, the main perpetrators of this violence, and the victims, seem to be largely and disproportionately from the black community. It also seems that recent immigration - particularly from Somalia and similar - has meant a rise in knife crime. Plenty of people have written about it and given statistics.
It seems hard for people to admit this and talk about it - due to the current politics surrounding race. Perhaps the first thing the government could consider is an open and honest discussion about these issues.
I would think that there are a complicated mixture of causes and left, right and identity politics all have a version of events to suit their own narratives. This is an urgent issue that needs the politics to be left out of it and a realistic solution to be found.

 


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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 05 Mar 19 3.43pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Police cuts due to austerity, when people are being murdered due to government policy, it needs scrutiny. This was Theresa May's policy, a catalogue of failure in her reign as home Secretary

Also cuts in school funding

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No magic money tree unless for the banks (or bribe the DUP)

Edited by Pussay Patrol (05 Mar 2019 2.27pm)

You very unskillfully avoided all my questions.

Anyway let me generally summarize this thread.

The lefties believe this is because of austerity and/or police cuts rather than because of people deciding it's OK to stick knives into each other or throw acid at each other (which wasn't even a "thing" until recently). This is despite the evidence that public spending is more than ever as so is the national debt. I would concede here that police numbers have fallen significantly and this is not helping but then again there is the fact that people going into the police these days have generally not even been in a pub fight and have their hands tied by political correctness, limits on stop and search and senior officers more focused on their own careers and our old friend "diversity".

The sane majority believe that may well be related to a net £250,000 coming into the country per year (the number of people now leaving the country may also be a clue) and a complete lack of personal responsibility in many "communities" plus any form of shared identify or social contract. It's not just their fault by the way (though it largely is). Our society has allowed and encouraged this. People like you.

And the answer to knife crime is to spend more of other peoples money?

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 05 Mar 19 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I think the tories have been very clever, hoodwinked the public into thinking the EU and immigration was to blame for all our ills so they could mug us off and slash our services, just a shame too many narrow minded people are conned by it. Police, schools and NHS creaking under chronic underfunding and millions trapped in poverty. Now the country is fast descending into a war zone but how bad does it need to get?


Whilst not exclusively, these are in general problems created by the black community. This is not racist opinion. Its fact which stats back up.

You don't get these problems on the streets of East Grinstead, Guildford or Horsham.

You don't find large numbers of Indians, Jews, Irish or Poles stabbing each other.Just the black community.

You can blame the Tories or anyone else you like however its not them taking 3 inches of steel and shoving it in someones neck.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 05 Mar 19 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol


I think the tories have been very clever, hoodwinked the public into thinking the EU and immigration was to blame for all our ills so they could mug us off and slash our services, just a shame too many narrow minded people are conned by it. Police, schools and NHS creaking under chronic underfunding and millions trapped in poverty. Now the country is fast descending into a war zone but how bad does it need to get?

I used to think that Nick Gussett spouted a load of rubbish but he's taught you well to continue spouting his commie rubbish

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 05 Mar 19 4.15pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

There was no descent into racialism or obscure left-right arguments such as you see here, with Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

They just got on with the job of making our society safer by being tough on crime and its causes.

And it worked.

 

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View pefwin's Profile pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 05 Mar 19 4.44pm Send a Private Message to pefwin Add pefwin as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I used to think that Nick Gussett spouted a load of rubbish but he's taught you well to continue spouting his commie rubbish

you do know that if a Moderator spots it you could get a yellow card for trolling Pussay.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Mar 19 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Yep and all entirely the fault of the left and their ideology.

The useful idiots of the Left.

Programmed to screw themselves.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 05 Mar 19 4.57pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin


you do know that if a Moderator spots it you could get a yellow card for trolling Pussay.

That's OK as none of the mods read this forum

 

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