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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 05 Mar 19 8.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

anybody caught carrying a weapon should be rounded up and locked into a large compound...with all their peers.


With what nature bestowed on some of us....we could be locked up for a long time. I might have to get the duck tape out.

Tom might never see the light of day again.

 

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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 05 Mar 19 9.01pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I do sympathise with people getting stopped and searched when they’ve done nothing wrong but if stabbings were being carried out by men over 6’6” who would come under scrutiny?

As a teenager in Streatham circa 1960 often got pulled up by the police when wandering around with a few mates in the evenings.
Got stopped and had to turn out your pockets. Never got nicked though and we always behaved well to the coppers. In those days if you gave them to much lip you were quite likely to end up with a fat one yourself!

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Mar 19 9.12pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Poverty is another big factor, years of austerity forcing people into poverty, Resorting to food banks and inevitably increase in crime as people become more desperate

Don't start on this again.

How many of these murders were linked to starvation?

Because that is about the only thing that might justify crime. Even then, not murder.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Mar 19 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Try comparing the 90's with the present !!!!!!!

So increased violent crime has nothing to do with immigration?

Yes or no.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 05 Mar 19 9.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How many of these murders were linked to starvation?

If he was referring to socialist Venezuela it might be a talking point.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Mar 19 10.22pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Poverty is another big factor, years of austerity forcing people into poverty, Resorting to food banks and inevitably increase in crime as people become more desperate

You don’t hear of many one parent mothers who have been knocked up by this filth going out and slashing someone up with a 12 inch blade. It’s usually someone who wants quicker cash or to belong to a group for various reasons.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Mar 19 10.35pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


With what nature bestowed on some of us....we could be locked up for a long time. I might have to get the duck tape out.

Tom might never see the light of day again.

Steeleye never does.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 05 Mar 19 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I have thought for some time that the black community need to stand up and take responsibility for this.

I’ve just heard the melanie Philips from the Daily Mail Daily Mail on the sky news press review go further and explain a black community in America took ownership of the problem with the white community rather than positioning itself against. They teamed up with the police and authorities and got all the drug dealers, drugs, guns, knives and everyone swept up and problems under control. It was their children being killed or in danger of being killed.

Those communities here aren’t doing enough or anything and are instead relying on former gang members because they’re the only ones these sheep or those nobody else to be friends with if they live in the really sh1t estates, listen to. How many times do you hear of what a nice boy the gang member was who was chased into a cul-de-sac and stabbed 20 times because his gang did similar?

There really is a lack of discipline and respect when young black boys get together in groups. The last time I got a bus years ago I noticed how these individuals who wouldn’t say a word on their own felt so powerful in a group. Loud and unruly.

There does need to be more police. I’ve seen some pretty shocking cheeky driving because there’s never any police around. But more police won’t stop a kid being stabbed by the garages or stairwell in a council estate, although more police would help round them all up to show the next wave of sheep it’s a worthless lifestyle choice, if there’s any gang members left by then to recruit them or to look good in their new nike air max. God it’s so pathetic.

Think of the riots. They weren’t going out looting Tesco. It was Foot Locker and Curry’s.

No morals, a different definition of respect, and not much chance of a solution with the under 13’s or whatever age if they don’t sweep up the current gangs and perpetrators.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Mar 2019 11.07pm)

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Mar 19 11.19pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

But what exactly is the Black community? Somalians hanging around with Jamaicans? Bajans and Nigerians? They genuinely dislike each other.
Knives are obviously a major problem but you can stab someone with a knitting needle, a screwdriver or a piece of wire.

 

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Online Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Mar 19 11.25pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I'd argue it's perhaps more a class/poverty issue rather than simply all to do with race. I'm not saying culture doesn't play a role but even that of itself is born from poverty to some extent – 'imported culture' from Jamaica etc. – yes, from very poor areas. Jamaica is not exactly a symbol of wealth.

An interesting question is – 'How many murders in Glasgow were related to the Black community?'

I hadn't really thought about this until challenging my own preconceptions on this issue yesterday.

'A bad year in Glasgow, 2005, saw 40 murders’ with a population of 600,000, ‘making a Glaswegian in that year twice as likely to be killed as a black Londoner’.

Now I'm not saying that this is all right and every other point of view put forward on this thread is wrong, but I am saying that it's not as simple as it's all because of this'. Excuse the pun, but it's not as simple as 'black and white'. That much is clear.

AH. you are quoting ad verbatim what that Rapper said on C4 which is what I saw on Twitter. He's right of course up to a point, but then statistics can be swung normally to suit you're view point.
Part of the problem with Gang culture is that School/College/Learning, whatever you want to call it is looked upon as not being cool.
These youngsters leave school with no qualifications but more Importantly no aspirations as they all think they are going to be the next Big Rap Star.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 05 Mar 19 11.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But what exactly is the Black community
? Somalians hanging around with Jamaicans? Bajans and Nigerians? They genuinely dislike each other.
Knives are obviously a major problem but you can stab someone with a knitting needle, a screwdriver or a piece of wire.


Isn't it of majority African genetic descent?

The question of what someone is isn't an easy one.....There are markers but a certain amount of self identification is also important and different people have different mixtures but for most people their genetics give them a sense of the identification they wish to live with.

When it comes to crime, It's a valid point to say that this is never the majority in any group.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 05 Mar 19 11.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I have thought for some time that the black community need to stand up and take responsibility for this.

I’ve just heard the melanie Philips from the Daily Mail Daily Mail on the sky news press review go further and explain a black community in America took ownership of the problem with the white community rather than positioning itself against. They teamed up with the police and authorities and got all the drug dealers, drugs, guns, knives and everyone swept up and problems under control. It was their children being killed or in danger of being killed.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Mar 2019 11.07pm)

Good old Melanie Philips.

Back in the day I definitely would.......but can you imagine the scorn if you'd put in a bad performance.

 

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