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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 19 2.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Once again, they didnít Ďbring a knife alongí to any movie, as they werenít there to see a movie. Donít let facts get in the way though.

ďThe Nottingham cinema had been showing the Rapman-directed movie around the time the stabbing was reported, but the incident has not been linked to the showing with police describing it as "isolated"

wonder what the knife crime rate was at cinemas before a couple of weeks ago? I donít seem to remember many knife and machete incidents in the news. Maybe thereís a reason or excuse.

 


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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 02 Dec 19 2.19pm Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Once again, they didnít Ďbring a knife alongí to any movie, as they werenít there to see a movie. Donít let facts get in the way though.

ďThe Nottingham cinema had been showing the Rapman-directed movie around the time the stabbing was reported, but the incident has not been linked to the showing with police describing it as "isolated".Ē

Genuine question.
Do you honestly believe there is no link at all, in any way, between the showing of the film and the many incidents of violence at the cinemas?

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Dec 19 3.23pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by sickboy

Genuine question.
Do you honestly believe there is no link at all, in any way, between the showing of the film and the many incidents of violence at the cinemas?

Iím far from convinced there is a link, would be my honest answer.

I donít know what crime rates at cinemas are like generally, but Iíd imagine theyíre fairly regular given cinemas are a relatively insecure, late night venue which kids can access.

The brawl in Birmingham was obviously something way outside of normal, but weíre talking about 100 kids brawling in what is essentially a shopping centre (that also happens to host a cinema) - Iíve seen similar in Whitgift and Stratford Westfield - I donít see any link to the film.

You can see how easy the link is to make though and how it happens so quickly; just look at the phrasing of your question - ďmany incidents of violence at the cinemaĒ - what that really means is there was one brawl, which people tried to attribute to this film, and now every incidient at a cinema where this film is playing (which is every cinema in the country) thereís a nice scapegoat to use, as we see in the link above - neither participant saw the film, said anything about the film, the police dismiss the link, but the Newspaper headline does the complete opposite and people lap it up because it sits a narrative.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 02 Dec 19 3.24pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

wonder what the knife crime rate was at cinemas before a couple of weeks ago? I donít seem to remember many knife and machete incidents in the news. Maybe thereís a reason or excuse.

I would be interested to know the crime rates, certainly.

It couldnít be that this one only made the news because of a larger, preceding story just a week earlier? The news would never work like that.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 02 Dec 19 4.02pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

when 90% of the immigration into the country is male

you get a lopsided gender balance (overly male) living in the country


thus, you get a violent society.

(nothing to do with Movies )

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

when 90% of the immigration into the country is male

you get a lopsided gender balance (overly male) living in the country


thus, you get a violent society.

(nothing to do with Movies )

Yep, and encouraging an idea to youth that all sexuality is of equal utility means that more females choose bisexuality, as percentage wise they are less straight than men.....thus lowering the birth rate yet further, and providing more competition for males.

More competition for males in an environment where 80 percent of the males compete for 20 percent of the women most of the time.....Due to a little known statistical evolutionary reality.

Policy based on 'feels' for a small minority of the population...which you make a little larger, which is actually in detriment for wider society as a whole.

As well as lowering the birth rate it probably leads to a small increase in male violence.


Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2019 4.20pm)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Dec 19 5.21pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, and encouraging an idea to youth that all sexuality is of equal utility means that more females choose bisexuality, as percentage wise they are less straight than men.....thus lowering the birth rate yet further, and providing more competition for males.

More competition for males in an environment where 80 percent of the males compete for 20 percent of the women most of the time.....Due to a little known statistical evolutionary reality.

Policy based on 'feels' for a small minority of the population...which you make a little larger, which is actually in detriment for wider society as a whole.

As well as lowering the birth rate it probably leads to a small increase in male violence.


Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2019 4.20pm)


Men commit more violent crimes than women.

Young men commit more crimes and violent crimes than older men.

Nothing to do with where they come from but if you increase the population of young males it is reasonable to assume that the crime rate goes up.

If we imported thousands of elderly people no one would be surprised that the NHS would be overwhelmed so why be surprised at the consequences of importing young men.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 02 Dec 19 5.29pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Men commit more violent crimes than women.

Young men commit more crimes and violent crimes than older men.

Nothing to do with where they come from but if you increase the population of young males it is reasonable to assume that the crime rate goes up.

If we imported thousands of elderly people no one would be surprised that the NHS would be overwhelmed so why be surprised at the consequences of importing young men.

I would imagine that economic internationalists have no issues with importing young males because economically they work more years and earn more.

However, there are lots of different negatives that come along with that......However, if you're just looking at the economic figures and live in a nice area with relatively filtered people....You might care less about it.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 19 5.43pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


Men commit more violent crimes than women.

Young men commit more crimes and violent crimes than older men.

Nothing to do with where they come from but if you increase the population of young males it is reasonable to assume that the crime rate goes up.

If we imported thousands of elderly people no one would be surprised that the NHS would be overwhelmed so why be surprised at the consequences of importing young men.

Probably first time I disagree with in the few weeks Iíve noticed you posting a fair bit. People from violent and war torn countries come here and/or without family structure in their culture, as do people and families without those issues.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 19 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Iím far from convinced there is a link, would be my honest answer.

I donít know what crime rates at cinemas are like generally, but Iíd imagine theyíre fairly regular given cinemas are a relatively insecure, late night venue which kids can access.

The brawl in Birmingham was obviously something way outside of normal, but weíre talking about 100 kids brawling in what is essentially a shopping centre (that also happens to host a cinema) - Iíve seen similar in Whitgift and Stratford Westfield - I donít see any link to the film.

You can see how easy the link is to make though and how it happens so quickly; just look at the phrasing of your question - ďmany incidents of violence at the cinemaĒ - what that really means is there was one brawl, which people tried to attribute to this film, and now every incidient at a cinema where this film is playing (which is every cinema in the country) thereís a nice scapegoat to use, as we see in the link above - neither participant saw the film, said anything about the film, the police dismiss the link, but the Newspaper headline does the complete opposite and people lap it up because it sits a narrative.

Itís now essentially in a shopping centre because the cinema is in a shopping centre? Ok. How close to the popcorn kiosk and entrance or time to the film in question will you think there might be something in this?

Have any links for any knife and machete fights before this film? I doubt there would be no links or reports if there were any. Hardly the kind of thing that isnít reported anywhere.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Itís now essentially in a shopping centre because the cinema is in a shopping centre? Ok. How close to the popcorn kiosk and entrance or time to the film in question will you think there might be something in this?

Have any links for any knife and machete fights before this film? I doubt there would be no links or reports if there were any. Hardly the kind of thing that isnít reported anywhere.

If weíre going to blame a film, Iíd suggest seeing it would be the basic requirement.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 02 Dec 19 6.26pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

If weíre going to blame a film, Iíd suggest seeing it would be the basic requirement.

If you can provide reports of knife and machete fights in cinemas prior to this film then youíll be proven right. The film has nothing to do with these gangs doing their usual but bringing their trouble where families go for leisure/entertainment.

 


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